Biden's approval so low that libs are desperately looking for someone to blame 6 months ahead of time
If leftists are so important to the coalition then maybe Biden should have been trying harder to earn their vote
this post was submitted on 14 May 2024
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Elections in the US are won by single-digit percentage points.
If leftists are 2% of the coalition, and anti-leftists are 20% of the coalition, do you think it's reasonable for the leftists to demand total capitulation to them in exchange for their vote? Do you think that a total capitulation to the leftists, in this case, would result in the coalition then having a net... gain in votes?
Sorry that you're so uncomfortable with the way democracy works.
Lol I'd settle even for passive toleration, I don't need 'total capitulation'
Not getting shot at and tazed would be a good start
Okay, I'll tell Biden to put away his taser and stop saying that the Palestinian protesters don't have a point and should be brutally attacked by local police.
Maybe try telling him criticism of Isreal isn't antisemitic, he seems a little confused about it
Yeah, I remember when he said "Those Palestinian protesters don't have any valid concerns, they're just a bunch of antisemites."
"I condemn the antisemitic protests,” is literally a direct quote lmao.
Ah, I knew that lazy soundbite would come up. You get that from a script, or are you just good at parroting?
“Mr. President, what’s your message to the protesters? Do you condemn the antisemitic protests on college campuses?” reporters asked the president after his speech Monday afternoon.
“I condemn the antisemitic protests,” Biden replied to the reporters. “That’s why I set up a program to deal with that.”
“I also condemn those who don’t understand what’s going on with the Palestinians.”
Lmao is that context supposed to change the meaning of the quote somehow? How?
Yes? That Biden is condemning, specifically, protests that are antisemitic, as that is specifically how the question is phrased, not all campus protests.
None of the protests are anti-Semitic 🙄 that's the lie that pro-Israel folks and Biden are spreading.
So the "shining beacon of leftism" in America, Mr.Sanders, has a podcast with a host who is a professor and even she has admitted THERE ARE ANTISEMITIC STUDENTS that are getting out of hand at her school as well as others.
That said this ISN'T "all Isreal criticism is antisemitism." It's "antisemities are using this time to come out against Isreal along side the protestors." So you can't just bury your head in the sand and pretend they don't exist especially if you're the president and you're being asked about it.
Like I said, antisemitism has been happening regardless of the protests and to tie them together is irresponsible reporting. It's very easy to condemn antisemitism at the same time as saying that the protests are not antisemitic.
I love how this OP keeps posting quotes that just make Biden look like more and more of an asshole
On one hand, you have people who are mostly comfortable with letting Palestinians die. On the other, people who openly talk about nuking them.
You have a group of people who may be willing to throw minorities under the bus. And you have another group that is waiting for the opportunity to do so and make it law.
Both choices are terrible, I agree, but there is one that is a clear better over the other. It sucks, but you have to accept that it's the way it is for now and you are not going to pull some third party out of your ass. That is going to have to wait for now. You have to make a decision between the lesser of two evils.
I'm counting on you, Americans. As a trans woman from a European country which political climate is heavily influenced by yours, I can quite confidently say that my rights are in your hands.
Quite frankly, I can't think of a more terrifying thought, but it is what it is.
Don't fuck this up. Please.
I know as Americans we consider ourselves the center of the universe but this is one of those things that warrant it.
With Trump's last win we saw Argentina, Belarus, Brazil, Philippines, Australia, and Italy (just naming a few) in power crazy nut jobs. Attacking your community, immigrants, and the poor bc the US had someone spouting shit daily and being racist/anti immigrant was openly supported. It is like a virus, it spreads.
I hope we crush is attempt to be president again but you never know. We need the young people and millennials to vote. It's hard though.
Stay safe and I hope we have a bright future to look forward too.
I know as Americans we consider ourselves the center of the universe but this is one of those things that warrant it.
With Trump’s last win we saw Argentina, Belarus, Brazil, Philippines, Australia, and Italy (just naming a few) in power crazy nut jobs.
If you argument is that US presidents set global trends than see exhibit a) Palestinians for the future of how the U.S. and other western countries will treat their citizens and how institutional power will utterly deny it the entire time.
If Biden does not stop this genocide now a new era of violence is being normalized and in conjunction with climate change destroying food security and access to clean water it is going to be very very dark.
If Biden does not budge on Palestine even though there is a strong and clear signal from the American people to do so than we have already lost and people upset at me for not not voting for Biden (if he continues to refuse to budge) are yelling into the void.
Those things you mention WILL GET WORSE under Trump.
Not voting Biden is a vote for Trump. Your protest WILL fuck things up.
Get off your high horse and vote Biden.
The 6 Palestinians I know (from protests in the US), 2 in Gaza and 1 in the West Bank they all tell me they could care less Biden vs Trump, But if has to be one... with Trump there is more chances of change in the region, even at the cost of more lives. Besides, it will be far easier to regional countries and the European ones to distance from a link between Trump's US and Israel.
I am disappointing with Lemmy's population. I would expect all these "Biden is bad in one thing but good in the rest" mentality so advocating to vote for him regardless.
First, the "thing" is not minor thing... is a crucial matter where the life of millions of people are completely dispossessed of protection and justice.
Second; There are third candidates... Of course, they don't have a chance and it will be, apparently, a waste of a vote... but only for this November elections! But, if a third candidate, with a genuine distinct message, gets 10-15% of the vote, future candidate will see an incentive to be independent in the future too... Gosh, even both Dem and Rep will be more cautions next time around.
The worse we can do, is to vote the same thing over and over, let alone no voting at all. There is nothing more the duo party loves the most! Encourage those alternative voices, the founding will come alone if hope is there... maybe not in 2024 but for midterms and 2028.
Also, I miss some conservative voices in here (and I am not one!)... I bet there are some non-mainstream ones that could greatly benefit Lemmy's ecosystem too.
It makes little sense to vote third party in your current system. Electoral reform is needed to break the cycle. For example with proportional representation instead of winner takes all.
third parties makes full sense. Of course you have no chance in the next few years but one of two scenarios will happen; 1) the people more and more open up the idea for the 3rd party and use it as a protest vote or 2) one of the duo-party system will try to capitalize on taking those votes by taking their main argument. No third party, no duo-party side has any incentive to remodel at all, they will just wait for the next cycle for their turn and things will continue as is. This is why the US political landscape has corrupted itself to the end.