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Hello! Does anyone here make their own soil mixtures without purchased materials? If you look for home made soil, its usually just a mix of bought ingredients like peat moss, coco coir, perlite etc. Peat moss is fossil, coco coir and perlite is certainly not from around here so definitely transported long ways.

Now, I’m no gardener but I can see that all the native plants around me don’t have any of that luxury, yet they thrive. Compost is the next obvious answer, but if you haven’t yet had time to establish one, what options are there?

I’ve successfully grown plants like tomatoes, strawberries, herbs and salad in a mix of gravel, local manure, topsoil and rotted wood.

I am looking for recipes and information on such mixes as I often struggle with drainage which killed my cucumbers. I need huge amounts of gravel to keep the silty manure from clogging up my pots but 3kg pots become quite silly too and the gravel makes repotting an almost sure death to any roots I want to move.

What are the consequences of using uncomposted organic materials? Some gardeners say soil acidity usually solves itself through microbes, yet the common saying is that it must be composted first.

Happy gardening Cheers

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[–] Guenther_Amanita@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

As you already said, compost would be your top choice. You don't even need your own compost bin, as you could buy some from local composting facilities or neighbours. Or, you can start small with a worm bin (vermicomposting).

As far as drainage, using just rocks isn't the best idea imo. Perlite or LECA are great, but pumice for example is a bit more environmentally friendly if you don't reuse it.
They all have a thing in common: they create air pockets that prevent the soil from being waterlogged. Gravel makes the soil store less water, increasing aeration, but you need to water more often.

One completely different suggestion from my side would be to try !hydroponics@slrpnk.net That way, you don't need any soil at all :)

[–] Kaffeburk@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I’m intensively staring at the compost to make it go faster, alas, it’s not ready yet :( And since I don’t yet have killer slugs I’m very hesitant to buying even local organic matter.

Pumice, perlite and leca are all mined products which I don’t want to spend money on. Looking for naturally occurring analogs. Unfortunately i haven’t found any clay on the property or I would try making my own.

Im sure their environmental impact varies but regardless I find it so silly that whatever’s already growing doesn’t care but when we go to plant stuff these things become necessary.

Im considering charcoal as i have an abundance of wood. Make a fire and just extinguish it mid blaze. The potash should help with acidity too, no?

And I forgot to mention that I’ve been crushing up old terracotta tile trying to emulate terra preta, which appears to remains fertile for a very very long time.

Hydroponics are super cool but get expensive fast and I have several hectares of useable land.

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Horse manure (with or without straw/sawdust) is relatively easy to source (most horse places are happy to get rid of it) and can be mixed with wood chips (ratio ca. 50/50 just for a ball park value) for immediate planting. Most plants tolerate it well and it will turn into soil to be reused with more manure and wood chips in the future. Even if compost or more complex mixtures would be slightly better in theory this is absolutely worth doing for the immediate availability and ease. Two ingredients, and so far we've had sweet potatoes, beans, strawberries, tomatoes, turnips, carrots, beets, rhubarb, aromatic herbs, sunflowers, squash, cannabis and more

You can add wood ash (not too much, strong pH change!), charcoal (no worries, the soil loves it), organic kitchen waste (no need for a separate compost, just bury it in your soil mix!). But no need for any of this. You don't even need raised beds. I've grown in bags, large and small pots, in makeshift raised beds (metal grid and cardboard structure) and on no-dig soil (just dump on the soil, your soil life takes care of the rest).

I see too many people work in their garden with old-timey ideas of the hard work a garden needs and how it should look. Instead of sweating and getting frustrated you can always choose the shortest path, the fewest steps, the most uncomplicated solution. Never mind the aesthetics, it will look pretty once it grows. Don't forget to water!

[–] Kaffeburk@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Sounds close to what in doing, but with cow manure. Im very paranoid about bringing spanish killer slugs which are abundant all over Sweden, but we are one of the few areas that don’t have any. So the only external material is from my neighbour, who also don’t have slugs.

But my problem with the manure is drainage, which is what prompted this question. On the no dig garden its fine when mixed with whatever, but for things that live in pots it just turns to muck and takes hours to drain. Based on your information i will try a significant increase in wood chips tho.

Thanks for chiming in!

[–] DLS@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Have seen people use hay bales to grow in, but you do have to condition them first. I guess it depends on your situation if that has to be a purchased material or not, but I am curious if the same idea can be used with other materials. I think the biggest "issue" with uncomposted organic materials is the nutrients are not as readily available, but I've heard that some things like squash love some uncomposted organic material to sink their roots into. I bet you can have success there, just maybe not the most optimal yields or anything like that.

[–] Kaffeburk@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Haha yea, hay can be great! But, if you cover your land with hay as mulch it needs to be thick enough to starve out itself from growing. I know this because last year i turned my garlic field into a very dense lawn… The grass seeds really loved that fresh soil and took off like nobody’s business The garlic on the other hand suffocated under the mulch layer. I think the lesson is, mulch out, then cut holes in the hay carpet and plant in those holes. Don’t just cover your crops..

[–] DLS@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Very good to keep in mind!

Local coffee shops may have spent coffee grounds available for free.

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You seem to already know compost is the answer - if you have the space it does not take very long to get a good pile going and start seeing some results.

But if you absolutely need soil now, check if there are any local community or industrial composing facilities nearby and call them to see if they offer fresh composed soil directly.

For drainage, leaves and sticks are the free option.

Also if it fits your space, you could consider swapping from hard pots to softer cloth pots which have great drainage and allow air to reach more of the roots.

For mixing in uncomposted food, it's easier to balance acidity if you have a bulk compost setup, but if you're selective about what goes in, chucking a few low-acid veggies in the bottom of your bins probably won't hurt anything. Hell, some things may even prefer acidic soils. Just bury them deep or critters will come searching.

[–] Kaffeburk@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Yea the pile is cooking but spring is here so seeds got to get planted! I'm very hesitant to buying external anything since I don’t have killer slugs here (yet) and i really really don’t want them.

Leaves and sticks are the uncomposted (plant)foods I’m thinking of, not so much food scraps.

Fabric pots sound cool, will look into diy options for that, but yea, that takes time too.

Thanks for chiming in!

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Look around your area for composting facilities. In the US, they usually give it away for free, especially if you have a required community compost pickup program.

There may also have a quarry in the area that will let you grab refuse like shale or slab gravel you could use, but the consistency would be the key there.

[–] Kaffeburk@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Yea, i get cow manure from my neighbour but i am very paranoid about bringing in slugs, an abundant pest in most of the country but absent here. Which is why I’m so stubborn on making soil from only local ingredients. I have my own gravel pit so thats no issue, and an abundance of trees. Rotted birch has been good but finding and hauling it in any quantity becomes too much work.

Yesterday was a very frustrating day as every blend I made just turned to poorly draining muck in my pots. Even though my last mix has been perfect for my seedlings. So posted here to get inspiration for soil additives to help with that. I think i will up the quantity of wood chips and try again. Good advice tho, for those leas scared of slugs!

[–] GardenGeek@europe.pub 1 points 5 days ago

Great advice! At least in Germany you usually also can get compost for free from the local compost facility.

In my experience the compost you get there usually a bit wood heavy so adding a bit of nitrogen (in form of horse or chicken manure) further enhances the property.