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So, OS-level age-gating is going federal, which will effectively kill your rights to device ownership and what's left of free speech and expression.

Enjoy your free speech while you still have it because this is a clear attempt to erase that right.

SOPA never died, it just went into hiding until time to reemerge, and now's that time, this is basically SOPA in a save the kids trenchcoat.

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[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

That bill had just been introduced. It is a loooooong way from passing. No need to panic. This is not our doom yet.

Now is the time to give those representatives a call, mention the bill number, and tell them in a few logical and polite sentenses why this bill is a terrible idea.

Fuck this bill. And it's not going to be too late to use the less polite methods later. We lose nothing by trying to be polite first.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 6 points 12 hours ago

USA being USA! Bravo!

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

"...and for other purposes."

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Using parental control is too hard so leave it to the government huh

what a fucking joke

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Children are an excuse. Difficulty of parental control is irrelevant.

[–] SarahFromOz@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Precisely. People are so fucking lazy.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 50 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Motherfuckers want this so they can more easily find kiddies to groom and rape.

Start selling the narrative folks, this is not gonna be a clean war

[–] Xell22@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago
[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 7 points 16 hours ago

I don't wish to live on this planet anymore :/

[–] qaeta@lemmy.ca 26 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Parents ALREADY decided. They decided they didn't give enough of a shit to use the parental controls already available to them. No legitimate reason to push this shit on everyone else.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Almost like it's an excuse. Focus on their reasons, not their stated reasons.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

These companies made parental controls abysmal to use, so they can count children's traffic as adult viewers for ad revenue(on both sides of the bill).

[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago

Also, children are a valid target for advertising as well.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (4 children)
  1. This bill is being pushed by Meta and they are NOT going to stop with age verification. It is not about "protecting children" and it never has been. It's always been about surveillance and control. Meta wants to know who you are, where you are, what you buy, what you download, who you associate with and what your politics are.

  2. If Meta succeeds in putting all this on your computer at the operating system level, then what is the point of even having a VPN anymore? Also Meta will sell this information to anyone who asks for it.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Meta is pushing this because their platforms are overrun by bots. Ironically because partly of the AI tools they have created. And advertisers have caught up and aren’t willing to pay top dollars anymore on Meta’s platforms. Hence why Meta desperately wants a way to proof that their traffic comes from real people.

[–] SarahFromOz@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

If Meta succeeds in putting all this on your computer at the operating system level, then what is the point of even having a VPN anymore? Also Meta will sell this information to anyone who asks for it.

I think this is not an accident.

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 2 points 18 hours ago

Meta management are evil but kind of clueless. I would guess the usual suspects including Palantir are whispering in their ears.

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[–] grumpusbumpus@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

Obligatory: the Democrats are not here to save you.

Fascism with a smug smile instead of a sneer.

[–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Disgusting. This is my representative, I unfortunately voted him in.

Our president is a pedophile and we still get the "for the children" bullshit. How about making a law requiring tracking the data on the Epstein class phones instead?

I sent a letter to him, hopefully enough people do.

[–] grumpusbumpus@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

Lately, it seems like bottles of incendiary liquid are the vogue medium of communication, rather than sternly-worded letters. I think it's like toggling that "flag as urgent" setting on an email.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

maybe for you...but not for me.

I'll switch back to a dumb phone and run a Linux distro so obscure nobody's seen it for 25 years.

fuck em. I'll never comply with this shit.

[–] falcunculus@jlai.lu 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Step 1: make some kind of surveillance & control system that is voluntary

Step 2: make life for those who dont want it less convenient (you are here)

Step 3: make non-participation in the system be in itself suspicious and a cause for further investigation

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don't deny that roadmap, but there is nothing I can do to stop this.

we can try all we want, but it still won't stop them from moving the goal and trying again.

I'm tired of trying to convince people the worst is yet to come. all I can do is help myself and protect my family.

[–] falcunculus@jlai.lu 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Being tired is normal and I can only understand the feeling, but if there's one hope it is through collective action, not individualism. Any individual or family will inevitably lose against the overwhelming power of corporations or the state.

[–] someone@lemmy.today 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I disagree with all of you. Now that our benevolent theocratic autocratic overlords have decided to track everything we say and do and escape is impossible, I completely support their brave new dystopian agenda. All hail the wonderful leaders!

[–] BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

I see there was no need for "/s" because you are absolutely serious and genuine. A fine example, comrade. Fine example.

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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 77 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If this thread is any indication, we’re cooked. If this many people are willing to give the government the benefit of the doubt, after what we’re dealing with…

This will not be benign, it will seem innocent at first, but we’ll have given up yet another seemingly simple thing that will eventually be used against us.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

evidently Palantir wasn't able to use all available data and a few glaciers to find out who was saying mean things about Important People With Money. This oughta fill in those gaps.

[–] FE80@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

Donate here: https://www.eff.org/ https://epic.org/ https://cdt.org/ https://www.aclu.org/

Get off Android if you can: https://grapheneos.org/ https://lineageos.org/ https://e.foundation/e-os/

Pick a Linux distro to try on a beater laptop (save yourself some trouble and just use Ubuntu to start): https://distrowatch.com/

[–] JenitalJouster@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

more laws from people who have no idea about anything. let’s say for a sec this isn’t even for mass surveillance (which it is) does verifying your age prevent you from actually being addicted to social medias? it’s the same experience no matter what…this whole thing just shifts onus of social media addiction from big tech companies to us. i implore everyone reading who’s in america to please contact your local representatives.

http://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative

[–] musket528@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

this is insane, but i don't quite understand how will it be pushed on independent linux distros.

even if it'll be magically pushed into linux kernel, mfs will just create a fork without that shit... no?

[–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

You won't be able to access many sites without a verified age code.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They'll probably just ban Linux and BSD on the desktop and force Windows and macOS. If NK can force Red Star, then the Fourth Reich can force their approved OS.

[–] grumpusbumpus@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, just make it a felony to use a non-standard OS.

"You installed Linux? What kind of criminal weirdo are you? What are you hiding? You must be a pedo!"

Because we care so much about those...

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Yes. They're already pushing this narrative against GrapheneOS.

[–] musket528@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

glad that i read physical books and write to physical notebooks. moving to cave next week.

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[–] uenticx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Initial rollout: Sir, every device on earth is controlled by someone at least 21 years old on xxxx-01-01 !

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

All those chickenshit coward "reps" need to be tarred and feathered.

[–] chrislowles@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

This coming up not a fortnight after his floundering interview with The Bulwark is some Curb Your Enthusiasm level comedy, there's not even really an "at best" to look for in American politics, a handful of progressive anomalies that came about after MONTHS of tireless campaigning that we can only pray result in a trend toward some kind of wave but that's it, pay the right Democrat just enough money and they'll be dancing like a GOP worm.

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