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[orange, proud]
I'm willing to pay more for products MADE IN THE USA because I'm a based patriot who wants to SUPPORT REAL AMERICANS

[green, accusatory]
OK then how about supporting american workers by paying them a living wage?

[orange, dismissively shaking their hands while having a look of absolute disgust on their face]
NO

[the comic is squished into a funneling triangle shape for some reason]

https://thebad.website/comic/america_first

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 47 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] uenticx@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

THE OG OF THE WORLD ... YA'LL ARE INTRUDERS

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] uenticx@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Too advanced, they came later, it's just an unforgotten Amoeba.

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

La di da, with your cellular walls and your organelles. Piss off, ya foreign gobshite!

[–] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

All humans should be deported from planet earth as illegal invasive species, and restore this glorious planet to unicellular organisms.

[–] nullify3112@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Is this LUCA?

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

That's not an American, that's a Hunkpapa Sioux.

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[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Funny how American = European American, whereas everyone else needs a prefix in front of them.

It should be American = Native American, and everyone else should keep the prefix.

[–] uenticx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

"America" was a European invention (Vespucci). The Native Americans didn't think of it as one unified land mass.

Native American is quite proper, you're trying to add some racism here where there is clearly not. We refer to American as anyone who lives here, not just European Americans? Where the fuck do you get your information? lol

E: He's right, media is generally racist as they still pander to European Americans. I retract. We're on two different entities here.

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's a bit preachy I'll admit, but it's a eurocentric view I'm getting at. The news all the time says African American, Asian American bla bla, they never say European American when describing someone white. And whether or not it's racist i'd still rather a classification be consistent.

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[–] baller_w@lemmy.zip 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Certain companies have tried this in a heads-up fashion: offer both the USA made option and one made overseas. The catch is the one made in the USA is 3x more expensive.

0% of people bought the USA-made one.

Source

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

The few Made In America products with a 200% premium over the overseas competition I am aware of are not short on customers.

Of the many, many, many, "66% off from the factory" overseas products out there, almost none reach American retail shelves without a markup that gets them within 25% of the price of their "locally"-produced counterparts.

Your "certain companies" set-up those consumers to fail, in order to convince share-holders that their brands wouldn't suffer from off-shoring production.

You should try being more selective with your sources.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The few Made In America products with a 200% premium over the overseas competition I am aware of are not short on customers.

Name one.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Could I interest you in a https://www.jjgeorgestore.com/the-smarter-scrubber/

admitedly, I'm not certain that they're not short on customers he made them a few years ago and they're still being sold, could just be backstock

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Okay that's pretty cool, still yeah idk if i can afford that when i can buy a basic scrubber for two bucks.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

Absolutely not. No normal people are buying it. People dedicated to buy in the USA were.

All those components he purchased were at the best possible price they could give him.

We don't have enough manufacturing capability anymore to have internal competition. We can't compete against china so we don't even try.

The owners and stock-holders get the lions share and we're left paying $2 for a $0.10 bolt.

[–] baller_w@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

Agreed, but his bit about scrubber wire coming off and getting swallowed has made me strongly consider buying one of these.

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[–] baller_w@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Destin from the YouTube channel Smarter Every Day had a hand in the creation of this. Is a great video highlighting the dire situation of US manufacturing.

https://youtu.be/3ZTGwcHQfLY

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[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

This is a dumb strawman.

There's basically two consumers, plus a bunch of lies told by the Epstein class.

Consumer 1: Wants a good product produced in a way they feel good about at a fair price. This typically includes preferring both locally made and fair wage pricing, as well as not-killing-the-planet.(Non-sociopaths who are currently not afraid about their finances tomorrow, tend to fall in this category.)

Consumer 2: Just needs the lowest price possible to survive another day. (People may drift btween these two modes, based on life events.)

Cosumer 3: Epstein class rapist. Wants you to believe their crimes are somehow your neighbor's fault.

Edit: This maybe flew over my head. Is Orange man Epstein class?

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

This maybe flew over my head. Is Orange man Epstein class?

I am guessing they're orange to hint that they're MAGA.

And now, then, I think this may shock you, but there is a fourth consumer class, and they're a bigger class than you might think. They don't think about whether a product makes them feel good. They don't think about whether a specific product is at a low price. Even if they're poor, they don't think about budgets, and they tend to be heavily in credit card debt. These people's defining characteristic is that they don't think much about anything. They simply choose some authority figure to tell them how to live and then they do whatever they're told to do. They may occasionally spout out a bit of propaganda out of nowhere, but importantly, they have never once deeply thought about it themselves. They lack even the basic mental tools to think about it.

When challenged, they'll just say some other bit of propaganda, or they'll get angry, but they'll obstinately refuse to think even the tiniest bit for themselves. They have what is called an authoritarian personality, "characterized by a disposition to treat the voice of authority figures with unquestioning obedience and respect." If you look at the Wikipedia article, you'll see there is a high correlation between having an authoritarian personality and being poorly educated or being religious (especially being an Evangelical Protestant).

Now, then back to the question about the comic. It is impossible to tell whether the orange man is Epstein class or whether he's simply a mindless MAGA drone with an authoritarian personality, because they say the exact same things. One says it because they're evil, and one says it because they refuse to question anything that the evil people say.

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[–] green_red_black@slrpnk.net 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Not only will I buy American I will buy from genuine local buissness. It will be much more pricy but I view it as a long term investment that I feel will pan out in the long term

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[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Republicans support businesses not workers. The people who own the businesses benefit.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Republicans support businesses not workers. The people who own the businesses benefit.

Why do you think it's "Republicans" and not "Republicans & Democrats"?

Kinda silly, really.

Look around. Union membership is down to under 10% (from over 40%), wages are historically low, our "labor party" abandoned labor many decades ago. The New Deal is now very old and just about dead.

Nooo there are theoretical undecided voters you're gonna confuse them don't criticize Dems!

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I loved it when "smarter every day" decided to make a stand and try to build a grill brush, sourced in the US from all US parts, he couldn't get some of the trivial parts from known US sources and it was still all over $100

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I miss something? I don't watch all his stuff, but I haven't seen him be too horrible, aside from the occasional cluelessness.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The referenced videos where he tries to scare people into buying his American made $100 BBQ scraper. He drops the "this is because of jobs in the US" facade when he tries to import the chainmail from India and shows that the whole angle was just sinophobia.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, the whole video was a bit strange. Interestingly, telling about the US's current fabrication capabilities. Just about all manufacturing in the US is now pretty dependent upon China, which in itself isn't a problem, but for a country where a large chunk of the population thinks they can just homestead without fabrication, it's a wakeup call.

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[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yea he's a bit off...though I haven't watched him in years and so I couldn't tell you something accurate about the current him.

Basically the same sort of thing happened to him as to Veritasium, but in a different way.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I try to avoid American products wherever possible :)

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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I am definitely willing to pay more just to avoid stuff made in the USA and Israel.

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Dude everything is so expensive. Food and gas and this and that. I'm getting the cheapest I can. I can't vote with my wallet if I don't have one

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 7 points 3 weeks ago

I want to support the American owner class! The one I’m pretty sure I’m soon to be a part of! Once my 3 side hustles take off and we deport those β€œurban” problems!

[–] nullify3112@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

β€œ Also, how about paying more for oil since we’re bombing Iran? It’s made in the US!

β€œ NOOOO!!

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 5 points 3 weeks ago

I'll do anything for the USA except for things that require me to do work or spend money.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I would like things made by local craftsman.

Made in USA has a markup for the cost of labor. But that's kind of alright by me (when I can afford it) because we should pay people living wages. However, so many companies use "made in USA" as the sole reason to add even MORE markup beyond the additional costs for manufacturing.

I like made locally also because it means let's transport costs and hopefully lower emissions in what it takes to deliver it to market.

I have a hard time understanding why certain companies should be allowed to be multinational conglomerates. Certain markets probably should have hard caps to the size companies can reach.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I agree with your vibe, especially supporting local craftsmen. But buying American a bit more complicated than looking for the "Made in the USA" sticker.

Some "made in the USA" stuff is prison labor. These companies are profiting off of prisoners. It's better than slave/child labor overseas but it sucks all around.

Another aspect is that politics around the "Made in the USA" are merky. Final assembly can occur here in the US but it doesn't mean that it was "made" here.

I went into a deep dive a few years back and found that because of various loopholes, American branded cars are often made in Mexico and then "finished" in the US whereas most foreign brands are assembled in the US.

All of this to say: until we escape late stage capitalism, it's hard to know for sure how to best support Americans.

Which is why I don't look for made in USA. I look for small local companies. I also refuse to support those small local companies if they are super patriotic. I hate how they've co-opted nationalism for advertising. Plus, it usually means they're maga skid stains and I don't want to support them.

A "made in USA" sticker with a flag on it is pretty bargain basement for companies I want to buy from.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Cars sold in America are largely made in a process that involves significant value add in Mexico, the US, and Canada (and it would be very difficult to cut any out of it). Though they often use some components from elsewhere in the world.

Honestly anything of sufficient complexity made in the USA is probably partly made in Canada, and I'm in favor of that. I'd rather buy something made in OR, WA, and BC than replace Canadian labor with labor from a state with anti worker laws and less basic rights. At least I know Canadians aren't being leased from a prison to makr products.

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[–] maya_the_good_apple@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yo, it's Bad! I didn't know you were on Lemmy too!

[–] Bad@jlai.lu 4 points 3 weeks ago

Hi !

Been there for a while :)

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