Never gonna stop pointing out that you should reject false binaries and derail the trolley.
this post was submitted on 12 Apr 2026
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so you're choosing to kill an unknown unreported number of passengers, in order to save 6 people.
by rejecting the binary, you created a new binary.
If you're obsessed with putting everything in this framework then derailing all trolleys will always have a lower deathtoll than the system of tying people to rails to create trolley problems.
but they stop using trolley problems to teach anything after philosophy 101 because it's a single tool that's for examining one single thing that turns out to actually be the process of decision making and not morality or values or anything people want to use it for. it's a meme, it has a million variations because that's how jokes work. you weren't supposed to apply it to the real world
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
no, I reject getting rid of the trolley because public transportation is best...
I think we all know it's a fucking meme.
Well, you got me there ¯\(ツ)/¯
let it go forward, as otherwise you will be in the previous guy's spot for the surviving people at the bottom.
this opens up the question if the top person and the lever operator switch places ad infinitum, crushing 5 people at the bottom each turn
What choice did that person make? If was freed by them solo or from a group that could influence the decision and their reaction
That person didn't pull the lever to save you alone and let 5 people die. Will you return the favor?
Yeah, because next time you would need all 5 of the others to decide not to kill you, whereas you and the bound one now have rapport, you’ve both saved one another and both have slain 5 others
Why would you need all 5? It's enough when one of them is in that position. That's five times as likely when it's 5 people versus only one. Maybe next time you're on the other side and make the person pull the lever even harder when they know you but not the single person. You might say, why would they return the favor when they know you didn't, but you just killed the one person who knew.
But that's the problem about consequentialism. It's easy to say, just choose the best option, when in reality you never know all the variables.
growing out of utilitarianism saves you from trolley problems. you're welcome, put me on the track now
Captain Kirk saved me from all trolley problems.