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[–] stickly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Weird diagram. Why are we starting at 1619 in Virginia when it would be just as fair to say 1493 in Puerto Rico (or similar when you include Florida or parts annexed from Mexico). And the end of segregation is wrong as well.

Well, American slavery never actually ended, we just call.it prison labor now. Segregation only really ended on paper. It's become less prominent I guess, but it's not gone.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Why is the timeline curved?

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago

Time is a flat circle.

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 hours ago

Car brained audience

[–] janewaydidnothingwrong@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Not to split hairs on moral grounds, but shouldnt it be english slavery up until at least the revolutionary war started?

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

While the Brits outlawed slavery around 1830s for themselves, they had no problem loading slaves onto their ships and smuggling them to the Americas for a good while after. Plus they openly supported the Confederacy throughout the Civil War to keep the cotton rolling in. And of course we don't need to mention colonialism that lasted until after WW2 now, do we? Of course the French, Dutch, Spanish, and Germans also colonized every inch of some else's dirt to exploit them back to the Stone Age. And there was little hesitation to kill any and all that objected the "civilizing" effect of European influence.

And slavery is ongoing even as we speak in certain parts of this world. But we do nothing and care little about that. As long as they keep it on the down low we need not be overly concerned.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

England started ending slavery before the revolutionary war.

That's a major reason why the founding enslavers of USA concocted their own regime, but that reality has been mostly obscured.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

Still in the Americas, I suppose?

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

Technically it was British slavery for about half of that red span.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Is that green area supposed to represent the end of racism? All systems go?!?!

Counter-productive lib bullshit.

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Make a better one yourself. If this is the best graphic we have then it's going to be the one that gets shared

[–] dreamless_day@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago

Where does it say that?

[–] Teppa@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Not every white person had a house either, and if they didnt then their family ended up losing a lot of compound growth, and ended up poorer as they payed somebody elses mortgage. What really happened I think is the lack of class mobility due to the financialization of everything, due to unlimited money printing and corporate bailouts.

The average mortgage was 7 years historically and somebody saving a ton could pay it off in under 5 years, instead of the massive 30 year loans backed by the govenment we have now. Its like as we got richer and more productive we simultaneously became poorer and can barely house ourselves, as food quality got cheaper with shrinkflation and industrialization.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I really don't where this influx of ~~mispelling~~ misspelling paid as payed over the last few years has come from, but it seems to be becoming more and more common.

For what it's worth, "payed" is a very old nautical term that means to spread tar on the deck of a ship.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I really don’t where this influx of mispelling

I really don't either. And it's misspelling. Cuz you know...

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Hah. I looked at that word, then wrote it with a double s, looked at it again and it looked wrong, so I went back to one.

But now that I see it posted, the single s looks very wrong indeed.

D'oh.

Also, any post on the internet about someone else's spelling mistakes will inevitably contain at least one spelling error itself, so I'm just maintaining the universal rules ;)

In your case, I suppose it's "cuz"

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

Still don't see it?

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 32 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

There were news stories as recent as 2012 about schools in the south being segregated. There are still sundown towns. Segregation only ended on paper.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 5 points 13 hours ago

My ex's family would talk about what they'd do to a black person if one ever stepped foot on their property. Within the last 10 years btw.

[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 170 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Yeah, no. Segregation magically ending in 1954? The Civil Rights struggles of the 60s didn't happen? Redlining and Ghettoizing of Black communities? Destruction of Black families by mass incarceration of Black males and forcing families to stay apart to collect benefits, while vilifying single Black mothers as "welfare queens"? We have never, ever been in the green.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even slavery is still around.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Hell, there were (are still?) segregated schools up until around 2000. I know at least one wasn't set to desegregate until sometime in the 90s.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I remember reading about a segregated prom in like 2013

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 19 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, wtf. Martin Luther King got shot in 68. They just forgot to tell him that all is well for 14 years?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 30 points 23 hours ago

while vilifying single Black mothers as “welfare queens”?

You forgot the "best" part: poor people renting apartments end up subsidizing wealthier people living in single-family homes, because suburban sprawl doesn't generate enough tax revenue per acre to fund the infrastructure and services it consumes. The white middle-class bigots doing the vilifying are, themselves, the real welfare queens!

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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Each time I see this I notice that it's always lacking the end of redlining.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

Primus~ "Welp, no more slaves unless they are serving time in prison. It's a bummer."

Secundus~ "Well, let's put them in prison."

Primus~ "BRILLIANT"

[–] wolfrasin@lemmy.today 85 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What is the US prison system but slavery with extra steps?

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

there aren't even really extra steps considering slavery is perfectly legal in prisons according to the constitution

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

It seems like less steps: consolidate the whole racket, let the state enforce and pay for it, and let the enslavers continue to profit.

This seems much easier and more reliable than the prior decentralized system of private enslavers.

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

don't worry we still have private prisons to carry on the tradition

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The yellow should be orange and the green should be yellow and labeled "carcereal slavery"

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[–] Rothe@piefed.social 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The civil rights act is from 1964, so even shorter time than the picture shows.

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago

And after that, VRA, loving vs Virginia, fair housing act. Ending segregation was a gradual process that, by many metrics, still isn’t complete, but any date before 1964 or 1968 is a big fat lie.

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[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 6 points 20 hours ago

Redlining went through to the 70s

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

If you count incarceration

We do. It is specifically and explicitly an exception in the US Constitution:

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

--> 1619.

Nobody goning to talk about that date? Lol

[–] DrFunkenstein@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

That's the date the first enslaved Africans arrived in Virginia?

[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Did slavery actually end? i mean you work 9-5 sometimes with unpaid overtime, you get unpaid PTO, you don't get any health insurance, you don't have enough to save something for retirement and you live paycheck to paycheck so it's slavery embellished with being called "work".

[–] Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This is a dumb take. The horrors of capitalism aren't the same as the horrors of slavery.

[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 1 points 13 hours ago

It might be a dumb take, doesn't make it less bad.

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