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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Achieving a moneyless society after one big overlong network outage.

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Regarding homeless people I'd say just carry a bunch of 2 euro coins. You can get them in a roll against a small payment at exchanges and it'll last you a long time. That way you can also budget your donations.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can't remember which one but credit cards were offline for a time with something and places that still had the carbon paper roller things stashed away took them out and used them. They should keep those things around.

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do people still have embossed credit cards? All mine are flat now.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

good point. I think embossing went away about when wireless became ubiquitous with it. So they would need to be doing that again.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's against the rules for PCI compliance

Under no circumstances should you copy a card

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

are they not allowed now. The thing im thinking about was definately post 2000 but maybe not 20teens

[–] Truck_kun@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shop I worked for in 2005… I think … ran cards when the connection was down and took card impressions, and I think the transactions were all auto submitted when the connection came back up.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

did they do something special. most places I have been to when the network is down it just does not work.

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[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure how much good that'll be... A lot of banks are giving out cards where the numbers are only printed, I haven't had one with raised numbers in years.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could just write down the numbers.

[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You could, but then we wouldn't be talking about a carbon paper roller thingy...

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (12 children)

No, that is not correct. Global outage shows the dangers of centralized systems would be a better headline. Monero Worked all day throughout the entire outage with no problems.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Monero isn't bad but I don't think it is great for easily buying things. At the end of the day trying to use two different currencies is hard. Also Monero gets a bad name because it is used primarily for illegal transactions. It is simply two complex and has no accountability

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[–] Norgur@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What good is cash gonna do if the networked cash register doesn't open anymore?

[–] dukethorion@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have paper and pens that they can track their transactions until the system is fixed.

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[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Would Taler be more resilient than a typical EMV/AmEx card? It's designed as an online payment system but it's less centralised, so that could help.

It's already an attractive project due to its privacy feature, and due to it being more regulation-friendly that cryptocurrencies. If it's resilient enough it could act as a digital cash.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Cash alternative

I don't think replacing cash is a good idea

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

To me Taler is not a cash alternative, but a card alternative, besides cash. It's better then cards, probably for everyone involved, but it isn't better than cash.

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