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[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 78 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Religion, too, is a weapon. What manner of weapon is religion when it becomes the government?

-Edric, Guild Navigator - Dune Messiah

[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

The mechanism of religion as a weapon never changes: controlling the public through fear and using said fear to extract power and wealth.

If you really want to understand power, religion and wealth one need look no further than Henry VIII's Tudor court and Thomas Cromwell with his scheme to rob all the sacred religious Abbeys of England and take their wealth establishing a brand new made up religion. It's the point in history where the veneer of religion was stripped away and left in its place were the people who had been using it casting all airs aside and start directly controlling people by simply killing and torturing enough of them.

[–] sepi@piefed.social 64 points 2 weeks ago

send these bible-thumping chucklefucks to the front

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 60 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Doesn’t that story also include the Antichrist who’s “charismatic” and fools them all into fealty to him?

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They believe they're too faithful to fall for that of course. It's the empathetic who are antichrists.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 12 points 2 weeks ago

yup its all signs of devil influence. not accumulating wealth and being against people who do. feeding the poor. helping those in need. these people need to find jesus.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They collectively believed in it so much that they manifested him into reality without realizing

[–] Arkhive@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago

Like the orcs from 40k hahaha 😂

But I honestly have way more respect for the orcs. They at least got creative with their collective psychic abilities.

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 54 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

If they really think this is the End Of Time, why aren't they out there on the front lines?

[–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 44 points 2 weeks ago

Because they are War Pigs.

"Why should they go out to fight? They leave that all to the poor"

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They want to get Raptured not Martyred.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is why learning about religions is important...

Not so much to "learn" from the religion, but to learn how that religions follows tend to think.

For this brand of Christian extremism, they're trying to make the rapture happen. Because that happens at the start of Armageddon, they're trying to start Armageddon.

To do so:

  1. The area that is modern day Israel needs to be ethnostate controlled by the Jewish faith.

  2. They need to enter a religious war against all their neighbors, none of which can be Jewish nations.

  3. The Jewish nation gets wiped off the map by "heatens", meaning not Jews or Christians.

  4. Everyone the right specific flavor of Christian (extremists Protestants) gets called up to heaven, and it's heavily implied they will get to watch everyone else suffer for enterity on "hell on earth" like some fucked version of Squid Game.

That's why I fully believe trump was manipulated into starting this, everyone in on this scheme told him it would be an easy win and to kick up shit, knowing it won't.

And once it's "hot" enough over there, they're gonna get trump to do a full withdraw with no notice to cause chaos. It's likely what happened with Afghanistan too.

The end goal is Israel being wiped out, they just had to make Israel feel like they had enough back up to start wars with all their neighbors at once.

Like, their "Armageddon clock" is seconds to midnight, and I wouldn't put it best them to have trump toss a nuke on his way out to ensure Israel gets fully wiped to fufil the prophecy.

But back to the beginning:

We desperately need to solve the religious extremist issue, and just getting rid of trump wot solve shit. Everyone will just go back to ignoring the real shit till they try again.

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago

These people are a danger to the rest of us. They are mentally unfit and lack basic decency.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Far right leaders want to see trump ignite armageddon, making him the antichrist.

If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he will be tormented with fire and sulfur." Revelations 14:9-11

The mark on the forehead says “MAGA”

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

nice. hats on forehead and signs in the hand.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Here’s your hand sign.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yep. Because the crazies are gagging for Christ to return.
Their whole grift, their raison d’etre is “god is coming, pray harder, and give me your money “

[–] Clasm@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 week ago

It's almost like it's a suicidal death-cult.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 9 points 1 week ago

Ultimate fucking daddy fantasy with this lot.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Hegseth already thought this when he got the job.

He’s insane and in charge enough without religious leaders anyway.

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[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Christian Zionism is out of control, and a thread to modern society.

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[–] Saprophyte@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imagine believing that your all powerful god is so weak that he has to wait on you to start the end of the world. Pathetic.

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe. If Jesus comes out of his cave tomorrow and sees his shadow it’s only six more weeks of Armageddon.

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[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

The crusades. But with nukes.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Religion is the greatest threat to peace and human well-being.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

Always has been.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

US was justifying its genocides in the middle-east by "they are religious extremists." How much of it was projection?

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Make sure their children and/or grandchildren serve in the US infantry. Frontline duty only.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These dipshits always see everything in such stupid terms.

I imagine a future where such people are sentenced to be put into VR where they could live out their sick eschatological fantasies. That's unless some kind of therapy doesn't come online for such people, as I think they have a (probably as of yet named or recognized) mental disorder

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 15 points 1 week ago

Blind faith is a mental illness as far as I'm concerned.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

It's wild people are just realizing this literally decades into this far right group grooming jr politicians and incoming officers at every military academy...

It's like looking at your house on fire, flames leaping from every opening, and being concerned if your pillow is going to smell like smoke tonight.

Yeah, that would suck to smell smoke all night.

But the bigger issue is it smells like smoke, because it's been reduced to ash.

Military academies (school for officers):

https://truthout.org/articles/underground-group-of-cadets-says-air-force-academy-controlled-by-evangelicals/

Politicians:

https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/post/the-family-explores-secretive-group-focused-on-building-networks-of-power

I'm not saying them pressuring trump isn't bad, I'm saying it's infinitly worse that over the last 30 years they've installed their people and had them recruiting peers the whole way.

It's not just "extremist Protestantism" it's the verbatim 1920 "second wave kkk" plan:

https://billofrightsinstitute.org/essays/the-ku-klux-klan-in-the-1920s/

And that's not the end game, that was what in sports is referred to as "rebuild years" where the focus was on growing membership and distancing from the hands on violence of lynching to systemic violence perpetuated thru legal but highly unethical means.

People really need to start learning this shit, it's honestly the same playbooks, we can easily tell where they're going, we just have to actually learn history.

The bad news is, we missed the off ramp they took last time:

Just as quickly as the Klan rose in membership and influence, however, it collapsed. There were many reasons. Some members were embarrassed by the organization’s bigotry, some by its silly regalia and ceremonies, or its money grubbing. Others were repulsed by its violence or its hypocrisy.

The Klan’s most fatal weakness was rooted in its poor leadership. The organization claimed to stand for morality, but its leaders provided the worst possible examples. For example, Edward Y. Clarke and Mary Elizabeth Tyler, the two Atlanta-based publicists who masterminded the Klan’s skyrocketing rise, were soon revealed to have been arrested in 1919 for sexual impropriety and possession of illegal alcohol. Then, with millions of dollars rolling in, infighting for control grew fierce, and Klan founder and Grand Wizard Col. William Simmons found himself ousted by Houston dentist Hiram W. Evans. Evans had allied himself with perhaps the Klan’s most successful personality, Indiana Grand Dragon David C. Stephenson. Stephenson, a former Socialist and a failed Democratic congressional candidate, had quickly engineered a Klan takeover of Indiana’s Republican Party. Clearly the most powerful man in Indiana, Stephenson (who said, “I am the law in Indiana”) viewed himself as a future senator and perhaps even president of the United States.

In April 1925, however, the 33-year-old Stephenson forced his aide, 28-year-old Madge Oberholtzer, onto a Chicago-bound train, where he assaulted and raped her. She attempted suicide, but her death a few weeks later was ruled to have followed from infection of the wounds Stephenson had inflicted on her. A jury found Stephenson guilty of rape, kidnapping, and second-degree murder.

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 16 points 2 weeks ago

“It’ll happen this time, I’m sure of if guys.”

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

People like this used to be institutionalized

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If they are so desperate to die, they can do it by themselves and leave the rest of us out of it.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago

If they all Raptured themselves, the remaining world would be much better off.

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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is so unlike for far-right religious leaders to side with pedophiles, I am very surprised.

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[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 12 points 2 weeks ago

… And it gives them all raging hard-ons.

[–] atropa@piefed.social 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's insanity. These people are deeply mentally ill. They are a danger to society and themselves.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Thats the entire cause of the world's pains. Ignorant religious fools calling every conflict the end. If only it was the end of THEM, we could all rest easier

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

MAGA is a pedofascist death cult.

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Religiosity has been in decline in the US, hopefully the ultra performative sect that's influencing him makes it happen even faster.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well if Iran has nothing to lose and the US thinks it’s the end times this is going to end so well…

so…. The Crusades 2: Electric Boogaloo

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[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I should have paid more attention and been more vocal. Every time those people came to my door telling me how everything was better when "god chose kings and leaders", I should have had facts to refute them. Hopefully I will be able to in the future.

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't think facts would have helped you. This isn't something they reasoned their way into. You're not going to reason them out.

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