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[–] mrnobody@reddthat.com 200 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

How is this not a violation of GDPR?! "Homeland Security" doesn't need the data, this is thousands of people for under 5 possible threats at most... this is fucking stupid! The game of bribery and backdoor deals of monetizing data keeps spreading, huh?

[–] TheObviousSolution@thebrainbin.org 53 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The only thing that makes the EU bureaucracy seem like it's functional are competing national interests. When all nations are being targeted by foreign automated propaganda through their social networks to promote shifts in their governments to allow this sort of bull, it doesn't even matter that the US is directly issuing threats against the EU, only just what corrupt long time career politicians can get out of it.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

It’s not just foreign. Internal capitalists also wish to destabilize nation states. There’s a popular fad among the global bourgeois to believe that humanity should be sliced into corporate fiefdoms with zero state control. There’s another popular bourgeois fad which is to believe that humanity’s population must be brought radically lower to reduce the risk to themselves from large numbers of people angry at being dispossessed by climate change and AI.

These two fads combined are personified in people like Trump, Musk, Bezos, Thiel, Zuckerberg, etc, and they are extremely dangerous to our species.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

yo WTF

all nations are being targeted by foreign automated propaganda through their social networks to promote shifts in their governments

Did we win WWII? Did we lead tech for years and years? WHAT HAPPENED? Why USA so friggin exposed to social media equivalent of script kiddies (no, worse/dumber). Like SERIOUSLY we still have some of the best bombs and while we were spending billions developing those WE IGNORED THE FUCKING INTERNET?!

(Yes I would work to make this better, have some small skills here, but don’t understand how we missed an INTERNET sized risk)

[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Government is excluded from meeting GDPR requirements. ☺️

[–] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well that's a real kick in the nuts.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Surveillance capitalism will continue the fascist takeover until the whole planet is a totalitarian company town and we are all slaves to big brother; paying a daily subscription to breathe.

I'm not even joking.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

paying a daily subscription to breathe.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean we were saying this in the early 90s too but. Yeah.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yes I called it too.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 0 points 2 weeks ago

So you’re saying we’ll live in locations owned by the state, paying money issued by the state, and if we fail to pay armed thugs will lock us up?

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Uh? It’s a bit less generic than that… some activities of governments are excluded from the scope but not all data processing from government agencies are.

For example this particular personal data processing likely fits under the prevention of criminal offences and threats to public security and is highly unfortunate but let’s keep shit factual.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Because our governments treat fascists in good faith, foreign or domestic.

[–] DoubleDongle@lemmy.world 91 points 2 weeks ago

What the fuck

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 72 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

... Why?!?

Why would you do such a ridiculously stupid thing?

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 weeks ago

Because their politicians are playing their people, it's the same across the west, the oligarchy controls all main parties, and the far right sponsored by malign foreign influence, ahem, is the only one running as reform, dooming us all to them winning eventually, and putting a fix in.

But that's another story. They are surrendering us to tech, and to fascism, because they aren't on our side. We are collectively too stupid to realize it. Because they think they will benefit, and we have nothing but nihilists in charge.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because even EU politicians are afraid of the people

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

If they were they wouldn't be doing this, this sounds like it will anger many EU citizens

[–] Trilogy3452@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My guess is easier visas? Although some already have ESTA/visa exemptions

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Its crazy that this is the only sane option mentioned in this thread. Like its not a reasonable justification because the insane low trust situatuin we are in and no attempts to mitigate risks being heavily advertised first.

[–] redsand@infosec.pub -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Rothschilds are largely French. The EU is also entagled in the surveillance state the Epstein class is building

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Bro, are not the rothschilds not the main drivers at this point in time? Why would you mention them in particular? Are they even in the Epstein files that we know about? I imagine they aren't because they are likely tight with Israel and Epstein was an Israeli honeypot op.

Pieces of shit I don't doubt, but are they the driving force here? Like did you just pick up an early 20th century history book and run with that?

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh yes, they're in there a lot. Like a lot a lot. Like Epstein introduced himself as their money manager. One of those few emails that can only really be interpreted as hunting humans for sport was to or from a Rothschild I forget which. Might have been a spouse and it was both sides.

You've some reading to do. Did you see the Ghislaine Maxwell invite to be on the 9/11 shadow commission? Yes, Seriously.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I will check it out thanks, that great game thing rings a bell actually I forgot about their mention in that.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 53 points 2 weeks ago

Ugh... Time and time again we are shown that US corporate shareholder needs dictate massive invasion of privacy and global over reach. Well this won't stand in Europe! Let's see what the EU says about this... Oh. Oh wait 😲.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 2 weeks ago

Just vassal states things.

Act tough on press, but gargle US balls behind doors.

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why? What could the EU gain by giving personal data of its citizens to a country that illegally eavesdrops on them?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

Not sure if your serious or joking about what you know but countries have laws about spying on their own people but not as much non citizens and foreign locations. They don't have laws about not sharing information about their citizens from a foreign government. So these kind of things allow them to bypass their internal privacy laws.

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago

What in the actual fuck?!

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

Europeans who recently have been criticizing US citizens for how they voted: "Et tu de baddie?"

[–] Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Come on French, where's the riots in the streets? Do you really want the USA deciding which memes will get you put into the memes camps?

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

One calls it a "meme camp", others call it a "concentration camp". Choose wisely!

[–] Antaeus@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Strange with how hostile the US has been lately. Is this a gift to the facists?

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago

which they probably already have. Look at that list, and that's only France ☞ https://bonjourlafuite.eu.org/

[–] BehindetheClouds@reddthat.com 14 points 2 weeks ago

People need to read.

"For Europe, the negotiations are significant because they sit at the intersection of EU-level authority over data protection and border policy and member states’ control over their own national biometric databases.

After internal debate, the EU moved in 2024 and 2025 toward a collective approach, with the Council authorizing negotiation of an EU-level framework agreement in December 2025.

That framework would establish the legal conditions for transfers to DHS, while individual member states would later conclude implementing arrangements identifying the databases involved and setting the operational terms.

The negotiations are also exposing the main fault lines that could determine whether a final deal is possible.

European officials want strict limits on bulk or routine data collection, meaningful human oversight of decisions with adverse effects, restrictions on the handling of sensitive personal data, tight controls on onward transfers to third countries, and some form of effective remedy for individuals whose data is misused.

The EU also wants reciprocity, meaning member states’ authorities would be able to query corresponding U.S. databases rather than simply supplying data to Washington.

Those demands may prove difficult to reconcile with DHS’s broader vision for routine biometric screening tied to border encounters and related immigration or law enforcement matters.

Tensions also remain over how long transferred data could be retained, whether the agreement would cover only targeted border checks or something closer to systematic screening, and what kind of legal redress Europeans could realistically obtain under U.S. law.

Even so, both sides appear motivated by the same broad objective of tighter border control, which has made this one of the more consequential transatlantic data negotiations now underway.

If concluded, the agreement would mark a major expansion of U.S.-EU cooperation on biometric information sharing and could become a model for future border security arrangements.

But it will also test whether Washington and Brussels can strike a deal that satisfies Europe’s legal standards on privacy and proportionality while still delivering the operational access DHS wants."

Nothing has been signed.

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck! God!! No!!! Please!!!! 😡

[–] webkitten@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is why my android sticks with PINs or Patterns. Never biometrics.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

This is also why you give your biometrics to governments, they already have it

[–] mthomson@forum.macaque.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

WTF?! I wouldn't trust the US to look after my lunch currently, let alone personal biometric data. You know this will wind up in Palantir's grubby hands, with declared intentions to use it for evil. This absolutely should NOT happen.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hey Euros! Don’t visit America or you will get sent to ICE gulag if you made an off hand internet comment about Trump 8 years ago describing that his dick is small.

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

And what happens if you only mentioned its mushroom shape, without mentioning his small hands?

Asking for a friend btw!!

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Trumpers will think it is great because they think nothing he does applies to them.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Fucking hell I hope someone sues the shit out of the EU for this

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

These articles should link any and all votes on this sbject to date so people can view the votes.