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[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

We’re not legally required to have age verification here so if they try that shit here we’re just Gina nice to Arch/arch like :/

[–] btsax@reddthat.com 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Dang, am I about to become an Arch user?

[–] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I already got BSD on a spare laptop. Granted it was freeBSD and I think I might switch to OpenBSD since the latter's foundation is Canadian and not US based.

But yeah if they go through with this I will be uninstalling it off my gaming machine and switching to Arch 100%. I really appreciated that line about it "not being April fools" when it was introduced in their github thread.

[–] knip@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

Theres also artix which is basically arch without systemd.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 4 points 6 hours ago

inb4

sudo usermod —birthday “1970-01-01”
[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 16 points 9 hours ago
[–] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh wait, there aren't people chiming in to call me and others a fucking idiot and a stupid man child and all the other talking points for suggesting that the systemd merge was going to escalate?

Fascinating. I wonder where they all went. Maybe they're on the BSD forums now, but somehow I doubt it.

[–] offspec@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

Oh no more people are talking about how to implement the least possible invasive version of age verification! Now they're referencing standards for it!

[–] Jaybird@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago

Welp... There goes Fedora!...

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

As long as I have root, I’m as old as I wanna be.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Not if age verification is done by a digital signature from the smart card in your government issued ID.

[–] cobalt32@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 hours ago

sudo rm /bin/evil-age-verification-binary

Or if it's done through systemd: git clone, remove the offending code, and compile.

[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Nothing is sacred to these fucks

[–] webp@mander.xyz 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Is there a swastika in that image?

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't see it until you pointed it out. Imo looks unintentional, just an unfortunate result of the circuit traces being arranged as they are.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, tbh a swastica is an amazing symbol, such a shame nazis made it their emblem.

[–] Peter1986C@piefed.europe.pub 28 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I have a feeling that a lot of those who replied have not really read the article, that contains some nuances. I do not like the idea of age verification, but the project leader's proposal is apparently not even official (and more like a hypothetical in a discussion thread on their forums.

Please read more than headlines, lol.

[–] esc@piefed.social 8 points 16 hours ago

But it's boring and won't give you the feelingn of being right.

[–] Xyphius@lemmy.ca 52 points 19 hours ago
[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago

Because they are corporate-backed I can understand why Fedora would need to think about this, but I would never use them again. The surveillance state will stay the fuck out of my devices. The discussion also seems to be centered on GNOME?

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 9 points 14 hours ago

Linux Distros Could Tell Fedora To Eat Shit.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 58 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Why do some people just have the worst fucking ideas...and why is "some" starting to feel like "most"

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Because media propaganda makes it seem as if the majority have certain views. People don't like to be on the outside so if the media can trick people into conforming then they will try that.

[–] big_slap@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 2 points 3 hours ago

Oh, thanks! I hadn't noticed actually!

[–] wioum@lemmy.world 101 points 22 hours ago
[–] ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What problem does this even solve? On Linux, what app would even be asking how old you are? Web browsers for sure, and maybe electron apps like Discord? But what else is there?

I'm on Bazzite (based on Fedora). I'm comfy with it, moving distros is a significant effort, so I'm very unlikely to ever jump ship. If I have to make a workflow that mirrors the official Bazzite images and neuters this age check, so be it. Not that complicated.

But I'm willing to bet the community will step up and maintain browsers/apps that don't have these age checks in the first place. Firefox has many forks that definitely won't, and Vesktop will probably stub this out when it inevitably comes to Discord. If there's nothing to ask for age verification, it doesn't matter what the OS can do.

I really don't see a need to burn a distro I'm comfortable with, even if the upstream maintainers are a little dumb. There a ton of ways to bend a Linux distro to your will without throwing your hands up.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

What problem does this even solve? On Linux, what app would even be asking how old you are? Web browsers for sure, and maybe electron apps like Discord? But what else is there?

I'm on Bazzite (based on Fedora). I'm comfy

well, the app catalog, steam, certain games, ...

tbh parental controls would be useful to have. you can't be watching every minute if they are doing something inappropriate. usage time limits are also useful.

why are people so much against tools? we are so afraid of the slippery slope that we don't even consider to accept legitimately useful optional tools

can we acknowledge that what happens on the internet today is harmful to children? now, you either properly set up limits for them, or cut their access, if you want any good.

[–] solxix@pawb.social 2 points 1 hour ago

All Linux distros either come with parental controls or have a way of installing them. This age verification shit was never about protecting the children.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 39 points 21 hours ago

Ok well I suggest Fedora Project leader get fucked. Plenty of other good distros bub.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 24 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

For solutions that back on actually "verifying" the age by requiring credit card or government ID, those suck.

As described, this is an administrator self describing the age, which doesn't mean much to anyone except kids of people who apply parental controls to systems their kids have access to.

Accounts already require your "full name" but we don't consider that "full name verification".

This proposal seems to be in the spirit of least intrusive means to let parents opt into this stuff if they want, with no ties to identity compromising third party/state "verification".

Question is whether this sort of solution that at least gives parents some chance will satisfy the lawmakers long term. For the wave of laws now, it seems to suffice to self attest age.

[–] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 6 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Accounts already require your “full name” but we don’t consider that “full name verification”.

They don't require anything. You can leave that empty or just put John Doe. All that is required for an account on a Linux system is a username and a password.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Well strictly speaking the full name field is always there, but a lot of people have the full name "".

But less pedantic, perhaps require was the writing word, but same principle, put whatever you want in dob field, default to 1970 or something.

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[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

As if their consoderation of adopting AI into their dev stack wasn't enough.

Anyone have any recommendations for distros like Fedora that don't have systemd and won't consider using AI, but do support KDE?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

I’m honestly okay with leaving KDE. Cosmic is surprisingly good.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 4 points 14 hours ago

MX Linux (Debian based) has a KDE version, and lets you choose a non-systemd init during the install.

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[–] nofate@piefed.social 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Glad I ditched Fedora a while ago.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

That's not enough. Just like with systemd, you will be made to care about what the corporatist Microsoft-garglers at Red Hat do, whether you use it or not.

[–] ajikeshi@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

age verification made easy:

user has internet access -> contracts can only be made by adults -> thus age is verified...

also... whoever provides minors internet access goes to jail

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 17 points 19 hours ago

the whole point of age verification is control of adults. Kids are always just excuse, people who spout "think of the children!!" style rethoric always couldnt care less about kids. Those who do dont yell about it and actually do stuff to help kids, so its easy to tell them apart.

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