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Always remember, both sides are just as bad! (lemmy.world)
submitted 7 hours ago by FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/9183854

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[–] racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 48 minutes ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago) (1 children)

It's not that i don't get the sentiment, but these extremely biased posts don't really add much to the discussion either -_-...

If we're gonna go with the worst of what's claimed about the right wing, shouldn't you contrast it with the worst of what is claimed about the left wing? "One side wants to bring back slavery, nazis, fascism, and women not being allowed to vote or own property. The other side just wants to let foreigners invade our country, and let them rape our women and children."

This post returns here every month or so, and i really hate it. I kind of get the sentiment obviously, but this "lets put the worst things claimed about the others be contrasted to the best things we think about ourselves", are just preaching for the choir, and just sowing extra division in an already extremely divided world.

You know that what you claim about the right may have some truth, but is far from the accepted position. And you also know there are equally bad claims about the left from the right, that also have some truth in them...

I wish this was the last time i'd see this silly post here, but that's wishful thinking i guess....

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 minutes ago (1 children)

You... are either a bot or a Republican

[–] racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 minute ago* (last edited 26 seconds ago)

Ah yes, wanting honest discourse and a bit less divisive language obviously makes me either republican... or a bot... wow... now, not entire unexpected for a reaction if you dare speak up in an echochamber....

I would love though to hear your reasoning about why i possible couldn't be a real human left wing :). This gonna be good :).

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Correction: They SAY they want health care and education, get elected, and then spend their political capital making most people poorer, doing fascism, and genociding.

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Still better than Nazis.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago (1 children)

Chopping off a finger is better than chopping off an arm.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 minutes ago

Perfect is the enemy of good.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 hours ago

Equal? Universal healthcare is derided as the delusions of radical extremists. A mere pipedream of anti-semitic tankies, if we're talking the gambit of American media.

[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 55 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Actually, the other side mostly wants things to stay the same. Their constituents, on the other hand, would like to see better healthcare, education, unions, and stronger safety nets. But since the other side aren’t fascists, their voters are stuck with them.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 26 points 6 hours ago

This right here ☝️. The grassroots democrats I could support. It's the Chuck Schumers and John Fettermans that will undermine the party from within that make supporting democrats difficult.

[–] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 30 points 7 hours ago

No, the media doesn't think that, the owners of the media wants the media to say that they're equal

[–] lemonhead2@lemmy.world 24 points 7 hours ago

the media is owned by private individuals with their own agenda.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago

We need to keep repeating this, it's a CLASS war.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 8 points 7 hours ago

As do .ml and hexbear.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The media isn't talking about general ideas, they're talking about political policy.

And, no, the Democrats don't want healthcare and education for everyone as policy, if you think they do, you haven't been paying attention.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Is it easier for the general population to sway the voting of their democrat representatives towards healthcare and education reform or is it easier to sway the Republican reps? What about primaries, if your rep stubbornly refused to support their constituents desire for healthcare and education, are there democrat candidates that could be more focused on those issues? Are there Republican candidates?

You kind of need to work with the system you have until you can change it. Either you find the revolution, join it and force the change through violence, or you work in the system and push the reps you have to make it what you want it to be. There are no third party reps and won't be until you switch to a less archaic electoral system which won't happen without revolution or reps that understand it and see the value.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You kind of need to work with the system you have until you can change it.

Wow, what a lib take. You sound just like this lib:

Whilst you lack the strength to do away with bourgeois parliaments and every other type of reactionary institution, you must work within them because it is there that you will still find workers who are duped by the priests and stultified by the conditions of rural life; otherwise you risk turning into nothing but windbags.

-Vladimir Lenin

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

~~Quite true,~~ what's your suggested alternative?

Sorry I'm editing this and removing the quite true bit. Part of my post does align with Lenin's quote (you'll note I also suggest you need to revolt as alternative, but some people aren't going to want to try that) so my question still stands. But in addition I'd like to ask, what the fuck are you on about? Are you suggesting you think Lenin was a "lib"?

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I completely agree with you. I thought calling Lenin a lib would negate the need for the /s

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Apologies for for missing it, I was distracted by a loud whooshing noise like something was flying past my head ..

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah I was trying to lampoon the lemmings who sincerely believe that participating in elections is fundamentally anti-left. I figured it would be obvious, but to be fair I have seen some particularly counterproductive tankies.

Satire is truly dead.

[–] TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

I didn't catch the satire either, but I think it's because I don't know you and, well, people say a lot of dumb things on the internet. It is sad that discourse has gotten so stupid that I thought you were serious.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, the US gov seems to use The Onion as a manual these days, it desensitises the wider concept of satire because any nonsense could be a real thing.

It's wild that people think disengaging from the system completely is a solution, particularly when they aren't pursuing the alternatives. They are always light on what the alternatives are beyond starting an actual revolution (noones doing that, and if they are they are doing a shit job and need to start building some momentum and pressing ahead, turnaround on the plan-implement cycle needs to be quick lest it be dismantled by the state before it can get moving) or wallowing in self pity (not going to help).

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Satire is truly dead.

To be fair tone is hard to read. That said I am not sure our fellow lemms would get it. Some of us here read things to strictly. It reminds me of christian fundies in a way.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, "That lib Vladimir Lenin" being accepted as plausible is concerning, to say the least. Not blaming you, it's a reflection of the discourse, but Christ what a discourse.

[–] aaa999@lemmy.world -5 points 6 hours ago

do you even want healthcare, neoliberal community poster FoxtrotDeltaTango