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[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 100 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not soldiers nor generals , conscientious objectors are the real heroes when the call to arms comes from a fascist government

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some have the fortitude needed for saboteurism

[–] Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 1 day ago

As opposed to the pure capitalist government? Or the pure communist government? Or the pure nudist government?

any government.

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 44 points 2 days ago (6 children)

The alternative to this is to join, get deployed, then mess everything up as bad as possible. Be completely useless, worse than useless even. Fuck up every assignment you're given, hopefully so badly it causes lots of damage and possibly save some lives.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

"Finished loading the battalions mags, sir!"

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Enjoy getting herded at gunpoint into a minefield. There are no real rules in a total/world war. If you fuck up on purpose or refuse to do your duty you will likely get severely punished by your own side.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

See: russia for the past 4 years

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

that's a good way to get hit by friendly fire.

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And draft dodging is a good way to end up in another country with no citizenship and working in the death camps. Id rater go out trying to make a difference than just wasting away as slave labor, forgotten and alone.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

there's better ways than directly and publicly opposing.

Unless you have extreme confidence you won't get caught, that seems like a one way ticket to physical and mental abuse hell. Well, probably prison too, but atleast there you might come across other likeminded people and you don't have to touch any guns.

[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bonus points if they can never pin it on you so they keep giving you shit to fuck up.

[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

like that one guy that would expose spies but was so incredibly secretive about it he was made the lead of the department made to find the leaker

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

I need the context for this

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

Sounds like I was born for that job!

[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 60 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Plot twist: draft dodgers will be sent to El Salvador and lose their US citizenship. SCOTUS will OK this b/c if you’re unwilling to “defend” the US, you don’t deserve citizenship.

[–] AffineConnection@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago

if you’re unwilling to “defend” the US

*unwilling to "defend" Israel

[–] Steve@startrek.website 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

*only if you agree with Daddy Trump

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Soulg@ani.social 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't think you want to go to torture prison

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago

More than killing people and possibly being killed? Yes

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

I mean I'm past draft age, I have bipolar, I'm a drug addict in recovery, and I'm on a handful of government watch lists, it's easy for me to make these jokes because there's no fucking way I'm getting drafted

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No one wants to, but if it’s that or kill other innocent people…

I won’t claim that I’d make the same decision after a couple of years in the torture prison, but from the untortured side of things, my choice is clear.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You actually get fewer rights in that prison compared to even gitmo, because in gitmo some prisoners even got to have a trial eventually.

There's no active torture though, just inhumane conditions and sharing your cell with 40 other people. And the official policy that once you're in, you'll never get out - though I think they'll let out American prisoners when the US demands it. Locals just go in without a trial and never get out.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There’s absolutely actively torture, I’m sorry to tell you. Even if there’s nothing worse than what we already know about (unlikely, given that we know about worse from the camps in the US), we know that prisoners are beaten and sexually abused.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Oh cool, of course none of the documentaries I watched mentioned that bit. Suppose they only got let inside if they didn't mention that

[–] RunJun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

Losing citizenship without already having citizenship somewhere else is bad. Like BAD bad.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Whoops, looks like there might be a number of friendly fire incidents in the future....

[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Draft dodgers hmu, there's plenty of room (and plenty of choring) at my place

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Umm yea, my place too, totally not a sting operation

[–] lena 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Shhh hey man be cool alright?

[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

FUD, classic CIA chatbot strat ;)

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ooh can I do my antifascist protection fee chores in a maid outfit :3

[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

If you must lol, they kinda boil down to "get wood or be cold, get food or be hungry". I got tools and infra to share, not a whole lot else

[–] Fokeu@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Penal batalion, once manpower runs out they're gonna send to war without a gun. Sorry bro

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Penal battalion ahoy!