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I thought Duolingo was great before it enshitified. I genuinely learned more from Duolingo than from any other method. Will Babbel fill that Duolingo-sized hole? I want to learn Spanish to rizz goth latinas. Also because it's a beautiful language. I also live in an area with lots of people who speak it as a first language and I'd like to be able to communicate better. Thank you!

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[–] gandhibobandhi@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago

Babbel is a lot better than Duolingo.

I found that Duolingo just gives you phrases to repeat and memorize but Babbel actually teaches you the rules of the language and is structured more like real lessons. Definitely worth the switch.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Find the people who actually learn a new language to any respectable degree... and none of them use Duolingo. Duolingo is a gamified piece of crap designed to sell advertisements. It makes you think you are learning.

At best, Duolingo gets you maybe to A1 level (ie: understanding the alphabet of target language, sounds, and a few common words). There was a time when some select languages had strong community forums on Duolingo that the community would learn despite the shitty software, but all the moderators + teachers were fired and "replaced by AI". So you don't even get a community these days. The people are the key to any liberal art. And language is at its core, communication. A community of people can learn despite any level of shitty software.

The paid software (ie: Babbel, Rosetta Stone, etc. etc.) all have small but paid communities of teachers behind their exercises. Its not the best learning, but its better than Duolingo.


If at all possible, find in-person learning. Community college, actual college, or other language schools. iTalki is available if you want a cheaper online-only teacher. If you live in an area with lots of spanish speakers, it should be possible to find a local language teacher...

Private tutors are most convenient but are the most expensive. (3 hours a week private tutors are the cream of the crop, but very expensive). If you have a large enough community, there's a chance you get into small-group study (4 people per class), which cuts costs down dramatically (half-off or cheaper per person). Community college and other courses are only a few hundred bucks for a semester, a bargain for what you get in comparison to private tutors. But you won't get as much attention.

Self study options (ie: self-help software like Duolingo, Babble, Rosetta Stone) are the slowest and hardest way to learn. Its better than nothing, but you'll really need someone to talk Spanish with in your life to actually practice. Plenty of people learn languages by themselves, so its completely possible. Just know you are taking the hardest path.

I probably should tell you about "intensive learning". Some people go all out, which means quitting their job for extended periods of time, and joining a school for 4+ hours a day with 4-hours of homework per day, and spending months drilling a language. This includes Diplomats at the US State Department, Military Linguistics, and "Intensive Language Schools". Its considered the most efficient way to learn, but many people fail and the lifestyle is incompatible with a regular life. (either that, or you use it to replace your job, like a military linguist officer).

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 4 points 1 week ago

When it falls, it'll make things worse - no one's understanding each other anymore.

Bible jokes aside, dunno when Duolinguo went to shit, but having used it around 2021, it was pretty bad already. I also tried some more of such "self-learning apps", and neither were good, all memorization-oriented, without explaining actual rules.

Personally, if your region has plenty of Spanish speakers, I think it'd be better to try to find a private teacher/tutor.

Also, native Spanish speakers seem, from what I observed, rather comfortable on speaking in their native language online when the place allows, so maybe hang around Spanish forums and groups too? There's some here on the fediverse too, like !chile@feddit.cl (one of the chiller ones imo - and pun not intended), and iirc some Mastodon instances too.

If you really want to learn the language (and not rizz goth latinas - in that case go ahead and stay on Duolingo)... Ditch the apps, you already live in an area where people speak it as their first language. That's the best opportunity you'll ever get. Look for language cafes, where they explicitly welcome people who want to learn the language and you can speak with people who are willing to help you. If that's a bit of a stretch for the beginning, consume media in that language. Start with things where there are direct translations available, e.g. a Spanish TV show with English subtitles available. Then, as soon as you can, ditch the English subtitles for Spanish subtitles and read spanish texts, and use a Spanish (i.e. not spanish-english) dictionary when things are unclear. Essentially, learn spanish based on the Spanish you've already learned, and not based on english, with the goal of moving towards thinking in that language as quickly as possible. Once you get in the hang of it, there shouldn't be much in the way of taking your first steps using that language to speak with others, and then buckle up, because this is where you will learn the most.