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Fallout S1 reveals what would really happen.
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Incontent with their underground paradise, they go out and obliterate all forms of civilization that aren’t them.
What would really happen
Other greedy fucks and power hungry people would replace them. We need a sustainable way to stop this being possible, banishing the rich by itself wont do shit.
It is probably harder to trick the next thousand richest people to go to their bunkers
Do the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy version then. Load them all into a ship, tell them we've discovered a habitable planet and we're sending our best and brightest to start a new civilization, and fire them into space.
Pretty sure you could at least get rid of Elon that way.
Before we build I have some notes based on the failure mode the tweet exposes.
- Why would the vault door be built in such a way that it can be reopened? Seems like over-engineering to me
- This thing doesn’t need to be sustainable for 10 years, it just needs to look like it will be. 10 days is more than enough for our purposes I should think
There's a book, Survival of the Richest which is about these billionaires and their bunkers.
What's amusing about it is that these rich people obviously hate having to do anything for themselves. So, sure, they want to go to their doomsday bunkers. But, they also want to have a staff in that bunker who will serve all their needs. For some reason, they thought that Douglas Rushkoff (the author of the book) would know of some way that they could keep their staff in line once the world had ended.
They knew money would be useless, so they couldn't just pay their staff better. They knew threats wouldn't work because it's their security staff who carry the weapons and know how to use them. So, they were wondering how they could keep their staff from turning on them without the tools they normally use. Rushkoff had to explain to them that there really wasn't any way that they could expect to keep living as a rich person in a bunker or in a post-apocalytpic world.
What was that joke? "Libertarians, like house cats, are convinced of their fierce independence while utterly dependent on a system they neither understand nor appreciate".
They forgot to seal the vents and doors with cement.
Billionaires are the result of Capitalism, change the system, no more parasitic billionaires. Also chop off their heads.
We don't have to totally change the system. They can keep making billions of dollars, we can just tax 99% of it. Maybe they'll pay their employees more, if they know it's only going to get taxed away anyhow. And if they don't, well just take it from them.
Yes this is the answer. No single persons should have this much money. Instead collectives like governments, corps and holdings should have the money. By doing so the governments are also able to control money flow and restrict unethical use cases.
But this would require governments working for the people, people voting parties that are doing stuff for them and not for corruption. Also media outlets need a proper source of independent income to that opinion is not monopolized, which is the hardest in my opinion, because how most outlets are making money is by writing emotional articles so that they are clicked.
Also chop off their heads.
That's where you lose. Keep it vague like "eat the rich"
"Billionaires" existed before capitalism, they were just called "Kings" or "Lords" or "Emperors" or "High Priests" or whatever.
The difference is that with capitalism at least they're producing something. Often they become billionaires because the regulations break down and they become monopolists. But, they're still producing something and selling it to someone.
"Billionaires" of the past were rich because they won the parental lottery and inherited vast amounts of land, and the people that worked that land. Or, occasionally, because they won a war against someone else who held land and now owned the people that other "billionaire" used to own.
I'm not saying capitalism is a great system. But, it didn't create wealth disparity. That has existed since even before agriculture. So, getting rid of capitalism isn't going to get rid of billionaires because they're a problem in every other system. In theory, you might not have billionaires under communism, but communism in theory doesn't seem to work. In practice, it results in billionaires too. In theory capitalism shouldn't have billionaires either because the government was supposed to regulate businesses to force them to continue to compete. But, wealth disparity is something that no political system has ever managed to actually get rid of.
There's wealth disparity and then there's the wealth chasm of today, the disparity has grown so much in the last couple of decades beyond anything in human history.
The only reason it can is because of capitalism (neoliberalism, late stage capitalism).
The system incentivises and rewards the horrific behaviour that results in the disparity.
Also, pray tell, what are inheritocrats who made all their non-inherited money through stock markets producing?
As far as I can see, they're not producing anything, but are profiting off the backs of, and at the expense of, those that are producing the value.
I still think it's preferable to eat them.

I dunno, they probably would taste like shit. Are you familiar with composting?
Maybe we should start a new worldwide tradition. Sacrifice the 500 richest people to the volcanoes every five years or so. Say it's to keep away Judgment Day or the astroids or something that the religious nutjobs will buy.
Then asshole parasites (aka billionaires) will stop hoarding to avoid being volcanoed.
As much as I like the idea of locking billionaires away; the system that created them would still remain, their companies would still exist and there would still be plenty of unfeeling psychopaths with nothing but greed in their hearts.
Don't let the best be the enemy of good. Lets start with the villains we know. I can kill/imprison the rest later.
As a species, we need to find a way to manage power, so that it isn't handed to the greediest, most dishonest, most evil and irresponsible people. If we are to survive as a species, we have to do better. It's not that we're fundamentally incapable of solving the problem. But the people currently in power will fight tooth and nail against any attempt to find or implement such a solution, since that will mean the loss of the power and privilege that they value above all else. The point of the fantasy scenario described is that without the ultra rich running interference, we'd have a better chance to improve the world. It's still a tough problem and requires large scale societal change such that business as usual doesn't continue as you described. Better education to make the public more aware, coupled with a few key changes to how governments work could give us a fighting chance though.
The trick is to brick up their bunkers from the outside once they've taken themselves inside.
Ah, the ol' "Cask of Amontillado" trick.
And cut the power so the sump pumps fail. Block up the air vents. They will get sent off like the pharaohs.
Block up the air vents
Why waste a perfectly good latrine?
I was hoping for something like:
"You were", she answered without hesitation.
Also, why would she be afraid of them? Without the system of power that upheld them, they are about as dangerous as the average human. Possibly less.
If anything, they're the ones who should be afraid. Especially the ones on the Epstein list.
That's way too on-the-nose.
And she could just be screaming to get people's attention to an outbreak of vermin. People scream when they see a mouse in their house, and mice haven't even ruined the world in centuries.
In the place of 1000 richest people we will get just new 1000 richest people in that case.
Peak storytelling.
Get back in your hole. Are you too good for your hole?
Yes please
This is funny because it's true.
I love the idea, but the billionaires know they're on a timer with regard to staff loyalty and will actively be monitoring the outside world to get out as quickly as possible. In a completely unrelated matter, I think we might have some good spots for building giant concrete structures to contain future radioactive waste...
“The Future” by Naomi Alderman goes somewhere along these lines
Can't we just kill them instead? That would solve the whole getting out issue, AND they've already built cute little tombs to use as well
All right, so that's Plan A.
