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[–] growsomethinggood@reddthat.com 92 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When the cartoonist tries to pass the Bechdel test without ever speaking to a woman in his life

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The test asks whether a work features at least two female characters who have a conversation about something other than a man. Some versions of the test also require that those two female characters have names.

Two female characters. Not talking about men. Both have names.

[–] growsomethinggood@reddthat.com 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes! Correct! This does in fact pass the Bechdel test, while still being deeply misogynistic. Thank you for explaining my joke.

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why is it deeply misogynistic?

[–] growsomethinggood@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let me answer your question with a question: what do you think is the intended joke/humor of this comic?

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a stereotype about women complimenting eachother while not actually meaning it. It's a joke. Look at the upvote / downvote ratio. Most people get it. You're in the minority here being offended by it. Recreational outrage so to speak.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I love that you're asking how it's misogynistic and literally your next words are that it's a stereotype about women.

"it's a joke." really? from what, 4th century CE?

and stop this bullshit about being offended.

people can call out misogyny, or any kind of bigotry without being offended. not that being offended is a bad thing when something is offensive to begin with. though to me it's not "offensive" so much as it is incredibly hack. what I find offensive is pretending that this is in any way funny.

also being in the minority or majority does not have any bearing to the legitimacy of your arguments. and it's not most people who get it, it's literally everyone. there's nothing to "get". this is one of the oldest jokes in history. update your sense of humor.

[–] growsomethinggood@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey buddy, I think you're projecting quite a bit here. I made a Bechdel test joke, and you got "recreationally offended" over it. Have a sense of humor man! It's just a joke!

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You still haven't explained what's deeply misogynistic about this cartoon. Or was that a joke too?

[–] growsomethinggood@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was @pyre@lemmy.world's comment not sufficient in this regard? If this is your first time getting misogyny defined for you, I think you need to branch out from Joe Rogan and try some media with women's voices as a focus.

Since you need your hand held here, this is my perspective: this comic's humor is just perpetuating a common, incorrect stereotype that women act nice to each other but actually hate each other. The punchline is secretly "women be bitches am I right?" and I believe this because if you swapped either or both of the characters in the comic out for men, it would no longer work as a joke.

Now funnily enough, I didn't make my Bechdel test joke for the purpose of starting a debate with dudebros online. I'm sure you'll find something in this comment to pick apart and continue sealioning, so here is your notice that I will not be replying further. Good luck on your journey of learning about feminism!

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That user is on my blocklist so I haven't seen their comment and I was asking you anyway.

incorrect stereotype

I'd argue it's not, in fact, incorrect. Sure you can say it is but that doesn't really prove anything. Stereotypes stem from reality.

if you swapped either or both of the characters in the comic out for men, it would no longer work as a joke.

Ofcourse it wouldn't. It's a stereotype about women. If you made the same joke about men it wouldn't be funny because it would be completely made up. Equivalent joke about men would be two guys being nasty and talking shit to eachother but neither actually meaning it.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

oh my god talk to human beings outside of your screen

[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because women are not nearly that bitchy to each other after like 7th grade.

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The women in the cartoon are not being bitchy to eachother either, are they?

[–] clark@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The commenter likely means two-faced.

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not all women, no, but some definitely are. Stereotypes come from reality. While they don't apply to every individual, it does apply on a group level especially when compared to other groups. If this was completely made up nobody would find it funny. People find it funny because there's a kernel of truth there. It's not misogynistic to aknowledge that women as a group act differently to men.

[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Women compliment each other far more than men do. IIRC this has been researched. Men live in a compliment-deprived world, probably due to toxic masculinity. Women don't, but the assumption that their compliments are all or mostly insincere, which this comic does, is kind of incely.

Thr whole comic seems like a man's take, and probably not a very accurate one.

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the assumption that their compliments are all or mostly insincere

I disagree that this is being claimed here. Stereotypes don't imply that everyone, or almost everyone in that group is like that.

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Erase the last thought bubble and replace it with "It was nice to run into her, she's so sweet," and you'll have something a bit more realistic and less incel-y lmao.

Women do actually like each other πŸ™„

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

True

But that would make for a horrible story though.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Susan B. Shoppin'

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[–] clark@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, anyway... I do like the fellow women I stumble upon on this site. I wish you gals all a lovely upcoming week!

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

You too, always good to start it off right with some good ol Lemmy hot takes on women.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

HAHHA WOMEN BE SHOPPING AMIRITE

[–] BugleFingers@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I don't get it. Why start that conversation with the person to begin with if you don't like them?