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    [–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 185 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Good GUI are hard to make while a good cli is rather easy.

    Nothing wrong with a GUI that does what it needs without fluff.

    [–] toebert@piefed.social 139 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    The cli has one other benefit which I think is rarely recognised: it's pretty easy to tell someone you need to run "xyz -a -b -c" (bringing the safety risk with it to be fair), but it gets a lot harder to be like "so in the top left there is a cog button that opens a panel on the right where you're looking for the 2nd tab and there'll be a checkbox".

    The things I appreciate even more than a good gui are programs with a good gui and a cli.

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 38 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    A well documented CLI is easy to generate a GUI from.

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    [–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    It is very easy to tell someone type this and shut up. I've never seen an explanation of why -a -b and -c are necessary or what they do. Although I recognise that a lot of people just want magic, and running "xyz -a -b -c" is the next best thing.

    I would love to see what cli commands the gui uses, they would be much easier and faster to learn.

    [–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago

    That's one of the things I like about yt-dlp-nis on android. You can select all the options you want through the UI and grab the resulting yt-dlp cli command.

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    [–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Tbh a lot of things are just easier to show/explain with images and icons in addition to text.

    And in many cases mouse control is just super handy and fast

    And while a terminal can show all these things… its just not comparable, IMO.

    I wouldt want to write my job application in the terminal, or design a product, or whatever else requires just a smidge of graphics

    [–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I'm just a faster typer and when I have to go back to the mouse controls I feel sluggish. Of course, the right tool for the right job, I will never find myself with a tui to manipulate 3D objects or editing images but I will go to vim for editing documents using latex

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    [–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    So true. I mostly live in the embedded world but have had to write GUIs from time to time, mostly to connect and send commands to some sort of embedded device.

    I always start with a cli version for testing and then write the GUI. A quick wrapper around the comms library and I’m done.

    But there are so many annoying fiddly little details in the GUI to deal with that it usually takes as long just to write the GUI as it does the entire rest of the code. Layout, menus, tooltips, icon choices, dealing with screen sizes, DPI, resizing windows, responsive data, etc.

    Edit: A simple example that I’ve dealt with many times is reading and writing config data. For the CLI version it’s typically two commands:

    β€˜tool read_cfg’ reads from the device and prints the config to stout

    β€˜tool write_cfg’ reads a config from stdin and sends to the device.

    Add a β€˜-f’ option to use a file instead of stout for people that don’t remember how to use redirects. Add a couple of documentation sentences to the help command. If there are any issues, print them to stderr and bail. If the user wants to edit the config they can use whatever $EDITOR they prefer.

    The same functionality in a GUI means that you have to first implement an editor for values. In my case that was generally a bunch of nested key/value pairs so I could probably find a widget that would work. And then understand how it handles being resized, gets styled, uses tooltips, etc. Of course there would need to be some code to get the data into and out of that widget which would probably need massaging. Then I need to let the user know if there are local edits. And then there is the fact that the data is now in three places, on a local disc, on the device, and in the editor and I need to communicate with the user that there is a difference between loading and saving from disc vs the device. Do I give a warning that loading from once place will overwrite anything they’ve changed in the editor? How do I make the four load/save buttons have obvious icons? And how to handle errors? An annoying pop up? Partially load the data? Something else? So many little things that have to be designed, implemented, and tested.

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    [–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 119 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I think people are just too rigid sometimes. Some workflows are better in GUIs, some are better in CLIs. They both have upsides and downsides depending on what you're doing, and it's totally fine to prefer one to the other. Just don't let your preference keep you from learning and using other great tools!

    [–] tdawg@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    personally I think having that all cli all the time phase is really important for a developer. Those that I've worked with who exclusively use gui's just don't have the same understanding of their system. Which is maybe fine at a certain level but not for a senior dev

    [–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I usually take the which does it faster route. Most of the time, cli wins, occasionally gui is actually faster

    [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 weeks ago

    Can we add repeatable? CLI is repeatable and self documenting with nothing more than a text editor.

    GUI? Good luck with that.

    [–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 96 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
    [–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Seriously! I can do shit in the terminal, but I grew up post DOS and it's nice to just click something and have it work.

    [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Meh, I mean you are not wrong.

    What is even better though is knowing that whatever you click on is just inputting a command you could do yourself manually into a terminal. Now that is some cool full circle shit that Windows fucked up by hiding the CLI.

    [–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

    I remember waaaay back in the server 08-08 R2 days, you could do something in server manager (such as installing a role) and while that process was running, you had the option to see the powershell command it was running in the background. That was pretty cool

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    [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    That's totally fine. GUIs let us theme our terminal windows, tile them, jiggle them around, maybe even make them wobbly!!!

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
    [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    :) Did you know KDE also does wobbly windows?

    [–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    You can also do shattering or burning effects when you close them!

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    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    No, I've been GNOME peasant since Ubuntu switched to it from Unity. Now also using it on Debian. Some day when very bored, maybe in retirement I'll try Plasma again. πŸ˜†

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    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 35 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Energy

    This is the energy we need.

    Not enough

    New comers should never ever see or require a terminal.

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    [–] pedz@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I'm undecided with modern GUI because most modern software is just a web page now. And it will offer you a choice between boring light mode and boring dark mode.

    I miss the days of GTK2 with hundreds of themes. It was one of the main reason I switched to Linux; the customization. I don't know how many hours I must have spent on gnome-look.org. Now I don't even bother to try new themes and just use Fluent-Dark. My desktop is boring and looks like everyone else that has a dark mode. I really really miss GTK2 and all my favourite themes I can't use anymore. I tried making my own and played around with Oomox but it's not the same.

    But one thing that I do prefer to be GUI now is IRC. Now that there are web clients (sigh) that can display images and videos directly in the channels, chatting in text mode only is kind of annoying with all the links we are sharing.

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    [–] Creegz@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

    I can and will terminal things, but the GUI is there so why not?

    [–] rozodru@piefed.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    before I made the switch to Linux I never used a terminal. never. hell on Windows I even used a GUI for Git. I used sublime text as my IDE. if it wasn't a GUI I was lost.

    Then I switched to Linux and it forced me to actually sit down and learn the terminal and now...now I have a hard time using GUI's. If something has a CLI or TUI option then I go for that over a GUI. like everything even my music player and video player. my IDE of choice now is DOOM Emacs. my file manager is Yazi. for Git I either use lazygit or just straight up the command line. but for everything else it's just so much faster and in the long run easier to just use the terminal.

    All that being said if you like GUI's then hey more power to you and that's fine. that's the beauty of Linux. you run your system how you want to and don't let others tell you otherwise. Hell I know a guy that uses NixOS and doesn't have anything installed other than git and comma. he runs everything via comma. literally everything.

    [–] meekah@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    what is comma? difficult to find anything with a search engine lol

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    [–] xylogx@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I like GUIs but I also like automation. Give me a nice simple GUI but also give me a way to run from a bash shell so I can automate functions based on complex conditions and/or a schedule.

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    [–] utopiah@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    If you

    • need discoverability, or
    • don't need anything composable

    then sure GUIs are great.

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    [–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    The thing about CLI is that everything is hidden by default. You come to the application with your own mindset and a goal in mind and you figure out how make it do what you want.
    When there's a GUI, you often see everything that's possible from the start and so the application dictates how you use it.

    Though, you can do either with CLI and GUI as well. That's the sweet spot I think is the best. I love it when a CLI app guides the user through a process and gives options. And a good GUI should disable OK buttons and show validation errors if not everything is entered correctly.

    In a perfect world, every app has a CLI mode, interactive and non interactive and a GUI mode with full validation and responsive UI changes. But realistically, good UX is what we need, either GUI or CLI.

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    [–] porcelainpitcher@lemmy.today 15 points 3 weeks ago

    An original confession bear post? Out here in the Lemmy wilds? Excellent.

    [–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

    I still do updates and most package installs through my terminal, but anything else I look for a GUI solution. I'm lazy.

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 14 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    In the same way some GUIs are trash, lord have mercy some CLIs are trash. Things like adding two verbose flags makes it extra verbose. Things like the parameter order mattering. Yeesh. It can be rough. It really varies tool by tool.

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    [–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 13 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)
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    [–] DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    If we want the year of the Linux desktop to actually happen we need to have good GUI tools for almost everything. The second you say "command line" most people's eyes glaze over and they say they'll stick with Windows. Believe it or not guys, most people just want something that functions out of the box and they don't want to mess with it.

    [–] chunes@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    I like GUIs if they aren't web browsers pretending to be a desktop applications.

    [–] deliciEsteva@piefed.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    okay, that was always allowed

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    [–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago
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    [–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago
    [–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    They are good for discoverability, but suck when you have to do the same thing 5 times.

    -- signed, a guy currently having to use a GUI to update the firmware on 5 headsets, and put our standard settings on them

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    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago

    A well designed GUI should give you fast access to what you need and allow you to get things done easily.Β 

    Nothing wrong with that at all.Β 

    [–] whelk@retrolemmy.com 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    It's pretty cool how both GUI lovers and terminal enthusiasts can have a great time using Linux

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    [–] badcommandorfilename@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Everyone else is like: is it git checkout -b or git branch --set-upstream-to?

    [–] zwerg@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    git checkout -b and then fuck when the first time I push fails.

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    [–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago
    [–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I like GUI's, but I prefer them simple and customizable, so I eventually want to switch away from KDE Plasma to just some window manager.

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    [–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

    That’s legal… for now.

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