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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Easy: even if you vote for Bernie that's still at best center-left. The US just really, really leans right overall: there's center-right (democrats) and far-right (republicans) and that's about it.

You guys are so afraid of socialism no party dares venture the true left.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Americans being afraid of socialism is proof that propaganda works. It's literally for the people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As does decades of systematically defunding education. The decades of leaded gas/paint by prior generations probably weren't helping...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here in Czechia, we had socialism a few decades ago. Pretty much everyone old enough to remember it hates it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Socialism is not a 'one thing' . It's a concept as a whole. You can have good or bad socialism and everything in between.

The world is far more nuanced than that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have working examples of good socialism?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'll give some examples of great implementations of socialism that drives welfare in today's democracies, as I personally believe that socialism can't exist without democracy, as it's one of the core values of the concept, that's it's controlled by the people.

One of socialisms ultimate goals are also equality, which my examples will show.

  • Free education
  • UBI if you get fired
  • UBI for old people
  • UBI for students
  • Free health care (duh)
  • Free dental (normally only till age of 18 today)
  • Basic insurance paid by the government

These are just the big ones that really helps to make sure that very few people are actually poor and are getting desperate because of it.

Also, it's always important to say that socialism and capitalism are NOT mutually exclusive. It's perfectly normal to have all these concepts from socialism in a capitalist country.

I think we can agree that a country with 100% capitalism or socialism is not the best way to go.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because what the US considers left (universal health care, helping the poor, school lunches and affordable education) is considered middle of the road normal stuff in Europe and other developed countries.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a proud American wingnut, I vehemently denounce these so-called "benefits" that you claim are merely considered middle-of-the-road in other parts of the world. Let us break it down for the sake of argument.

First off, Universal Health Care is nothing more than a government-controlled monopoly on healthcare services. This is the first step toward socialized medicine, which has proven to be detrimental to the medical industry worldwide. In the name of equality, doctors will no longer strive to excel in their fields, as their paychecks will not reflect their efforts. The result? A decline in quality of care, longer wait times, and diminishing innovation in the field. This is how the slippery slope begins!

Next on your list is 'helping the poor.' While this sounds like a noble cause, it must be understood that government intervention is neither necessary nor effective when it comes to uplifting individuals out of poverty. It's time we stop enabling dependence on handouts. Instead, we should promote personal responsibility and self-reliance—core American values, after all. Only by standing on one's own two feet can a person truly gain an appreciation for life's hardships, and ultimately, its rewards.

Moving onto school lunches, let us examine our Founding Fathers' vision for the country. They cherished individual freedom above all else. By providing free meals to students, we're essentially stifling entrepreneurship by removing the incentive for young people to start businesses that could potentially provide lunch services to schools. Additionally, such measures only serve to deepen the divide between the haves and have-nots. Why should children who are fortunate enough to receive these free lunches continue working hard if they know they'll always be provided for?

Last but not least, affordable education is nothing more than a clever Trojan horse for communist brainwashing. When the cost of higher education is reduced, the barriers to entry for subversive ideologies also decrease. We cannot sit idly by while our youth are corrupted with socialist propaganda. In fact, the price tag of college tuition serves as a natural selection process that ensures only those who value their education will pursue it, consequently maintaining the quality of graduates entering the workforce.

In conclusion, I implore you to reconsider your support for these so-called "middle of the road" concepts. These policies may sound pleasant in theory, but make no mistake; they're merely disguised stepping stones toward a godless society where individuals cease to think or act independently. The American Dream would die a slow and painful death under this system. First, free lunches, next COMMUNISM!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess the downvoters either didn't get the joke, or completely agree with what you typed and noticed the sarcasm. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm tempted to downvote because the "parody" is also literally what a lot of people on the right literally think. There's zero difference between this comment written in jest and the same comment written totally honestly. That means this potentially spreads that idea, however absurd it sounds to us.

In the end I didn't downvote because I think if people are here they probably understand how stupid it is for it to be serious. If this were Reddit I would probably downvote because odds are some right-wing idiots would think it agrees with them and see the upvotes as confirmation of their ideas.