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Interesting to compare that to the ILGA Rainbowmap which just contains Europe.

The european countries from the list above rank as follows:
Now obviously they use different scoring ('travel' vs 'living there') but I think it is interesting that they differ that much. Also the groups differ and the one from the article seems pretty broad. I would hope everywhere with substantial progress in LGBTQIA+ rights would also have proper womens rights and protections as well, since it is the same side of the (manysided) equality-coin. Imo racism is still pretty bad and widespread across europe, so not sure how much that factors into the list (though if it would be a strong factor I would be surprised to see Austria and Switzerland on this list).
Absolutely - I was going to say, Spain is head and shoulders above the UK for LGBT safety (those are the only two countries I've spent a lot of time in recently).
Also worth noting, I've been in the non-touristy parts of north Vietnam for a month now (much more conservative than the south), and having talked to quite a few LGBT people here, it's safe to live as an openly queer person, they just occasionally have to put up with assholes ... just like everywhere else. And as a guiri, even the assholes don't want to confront me, an obviously queer woman.
I'm surprised that the Netherlands don't make it into the top 10 though. My German view is definitely biased, but when I travel there it just feels like (well, used to feel like) they got other stuff to think about than other people's gender and sexuality. Be what you want to be, as long as you're going to our coffee shops kind of. As basically all European countries are shifting to the right more and more, I imagine the relaxed climate has also changed. Also the Netherlands are more than just the big cities, God knows how LGBTQA+ friendly they are in Overjissel. I only played cow cricket there.
I'm not a woman, nor LGBTQ+, but to me at least, this graph looks a lot closer to reality.
Why the fuck is the UK even listed at all? The country that proudly says, that it is determining sex based on what you were born with and that everyone has to use bathrooms AS according to their birth sex.
UK here. Starmer went full TERF for some moronic reason (far from his first bad decision), but we still have only non-gender-specific toilets at my rather large workplace. So it's bigoted and nasty, but it hasn't been applied with the fascist zeal that it would be in the States.
How common are gender neutral restrooms in the UK in general? I'm generally curious, since at least in Germany its not that common to find some.
What a low bar the world has for safety when this terf island is so high in the rankings
Yeah that list is bullshit.
"United Kingdom"
I call bullshit, the government is currently trying to pretend trans folks don't exist and the people about to take over are more generally horrible.
proud of us 💪🇳🇱
Hell yeah, men noorderburen! (Aka: de niet verlegen scheten die Nederlands praten) ❤️🫡
wat de belgie???
I love you, Canada. I want to join you one day. Please acquire California.
38.33% of Californians voted for Trump last election. In our most right-wing province of Alberta, 21% of people hold positive views of Trump. Adding a blue state to Canada would bring in millions of far-right voters and move our country significantly right.
Let's remain friends. :)
I doubt those fuckers would stay in California if we left to join you.
Not a risk I'm willing to take :/
Edit: and who knows? Our level of free healthcare may radicalize them :)
Given our own right wingers would rather seperate an entire province than just join the states themselves, i doubt your rigbt wingers would just walk away from california in this hypothetical scenario
Glad to see folks🧵 questioning such blatant bait.
Rainbow Map has done an extensive peer reviewed study on this. Fuck🖕sales.
In hindsight having "cult" in the publication's name should have been a red flag.
Huh, I'm surprised to see Spain being so green. Wouldn't have thought it possible years ago when I lived there.
Nice to see Denmark is basically 100%.
Sad to see Eastern Europe being so red and orange. I got some gay friends there. Was hoping it'd get safer for them as time went on...
It would be kinda hard for Canada to get placed on a ranking of European countries.
No Scandinavian countries among top 10?
That doesn't seem right.
I dont trust the data any more. You should check how they managed to create the list, which sources they used etc. Most of the data are made by the West, so West countries top the list all the time. Thailand should definitely be in top 10!
Thailand should definitely be in top 10!
From what I have heard, that seems right.
Thailand should definitely be in top 10!
I'm not entirely sure that all of the trans people are safe and well treated in Thailand.
I've also heard good things about Argentina
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The list of safest overall:
They have other lists in there too.
The UAE being on that list immediately screams that this list is horse shit, possibly specifically UAE funded.
Despite being a proud Canadian this seems to be the only logical conclusion.
Canada is way better than just 2 places better than UAE.
We had a woman recently jailed in UAE for months, because she was divorced here in Denmark as a Dane living in Denmark.
But her husband was a muslim, and filed a complaint in UAE while she was on holiday there. And she was arrested for being divorced!!!
Yes definitely very safe. 🤣🤣🤣
I have to puke every time I hear women or minorities praise Dubai or anything UAE. It's a shithole dictatorship kept in check with religious fanaticism. 🤢🤮
Thank you for sharing your perspective. From mine I have never heard a good thing with regards to human rights from there. As a Canadian I want to emphasize we shouldn't be complacent, we have a lot of work to do. But we can still recognise how far we have come.
Even the best democracies seem to have some way to go regarding LGBT acceptance.
Here we are pretty good with the LGB but the T part is still somewhat problematic.
It's not like it's dangerous, but there is a lot of disrespect and lack of understanding.
How is UAE No. 7?! There are literally emirates where you will get assaulted on the streets for being visibly non cishet, from what I've heard. Also according to Wikipedia, gay people can be murdered for the crime of being gay there, and according to Virgin Atlantic, you are not allowed to import "flyers promoting anti-Islam (including GSM) propaganda, intended for distribution"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates
https://www.virginatlantic.com/policies/dangerous-or-restricted-items
UAE is like Saudi Arabia (maybe not quite as extreme), where there's a big LBGT scene on the down-low, but also draconian laws against it that are selectively enforced. Think Victorian England, but with more executions. And similar levels of hypocrisy. I worked over there, and queer colleagues were never short of companionship, but they had to be very deeply closeted. And every couple of years, the government would raid a club, arrest a few people, torture them and maybe decapitate a few. And, like everything over there, if you have money and/or connections, it's easier for you.
How is UAE No. 7?! There are literally emirates where you will get assaulted on the streets for being visibly non cishet, from what I've heard
Are they pull this list out of their ass? Like seriously? UAE?
Our country isn't easy to get in to but you are definitely welcome! There's no place free of bigots but at least in the cities there are enough of us to protect you.
Edit: not easy as an immigrant I mean. Getting permanent residence (PR), etc. Tourists from most countries should have little trouble travelling (as long as you don't have a layover in the USA).
And depending on the area many small towns are probably fine also.
Are you a healthcare worker thinking of moving to Canada? If so there's a bunch of Canadians ready to welcome you and walk you through the process! https://engageq.notion.site/infusionhosts
I realise this isn't targeted at me.
but for anyone reading
There is desperate need accross the nation for professionals at all levels of care. The exception to my above comment is if you're in an in-demand field. It will be much easier. The scope of that may have narrowed but nurses, care workers, etc. are in high demand everywhere here and will fast-track you for sure.
Edit: and our birthrate is dangerously low. We need immigrants to continue to exist as a nation.
What if I promise to become a nurse if you (Canada) puts me through the schooling and gives me citizenship?
Idk, but in an ideal world we would facilitate that. Look into your options.
I'm a nurse but life is too good in Belgium. Only thing I miss here is your astonishing nature and the legal green. Though it's not worth trading my friends, family and culture over for me.
A nephew of mine did take the leap and lives with his Canadian girlfriend (yes I know this is a meme, but I've met her a couple of times, she's real) somewhere in Canada. Should definitely plan for a visit once my babies are a little bit older.
Doesn't feel like it lately with how the conservatives are acting...
How is this "world news"? The news is the full list and not just Canada.