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[QubesOS] [Xfce] [Xmonad] Back to root (discuss.tchncs.de)
submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by ken@discuss.tchncs.de to c/unixporn@lemmy.world
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  • Distribution: QubesOS 4.3
  • Desktop Environment: Xfce
  • Theme: Redmond97-SE
  • Window Manager: Xmonad
  • Terminal: xterm + tmux
  • Launcher: Rofi^1^
  • Bar: xfce4-panel

Windows

Top-left to bottom right:

  1. neovim "IDE" with integrated terminal editing dotfiles (Debian)
  2. dom0 admin terminal (Fedora)
  3. Qubes Manager looking at some templates (Fedora)
  4. Thunar File manager about to move a file between qubes (Whonix)
  5. Konform Browser browsing codeberg (Arch Linux)

Each app and window can belong to a separate qube (Xen VM), visually discriminated by differing color schemes.

Thanks to Ben Grandes qusal which was very helpful as base for setting things up.

This is a setup optimized for productivity and efficiency, which is reflected in the lack of eye-candy and gratuitous margins.

^1^: Not pictured - I figured the screenshot was busy enough. If y'all want to see more LMK.

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[–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

A tangent but in response to something I see around here and the webs recently:

People who say Wayland is ready for everyone and that X11 is no longer of relevance - that distros and projects like KDE dropping and deprecating it is A Good Thing: How do I replicate this in Wayland without having to loosen security boundaries or lose out on core features? Or at all?

Not shown in screenshot but sometimes I also run GUI apps or a nested WM (to get the "classic" VM experience with a windowed or fullscreened isolated desktop) in containers. Also obviously need things like remote screen sharing without having to run such apps in dom0 and Input Method integration for non-latin typing. Even with people working on some parts of that already and some ad-hoc early-stage solutions existing, I don't see it happening this decade... My setup works great for now and I'd hate to have integral parts of it getting fully abandoned or dropped from upstream distros like Fedora or Arch if no drop-in replacements exist. Why the push for deprecation? :/

Next time you see someone saying that Wayland isn't ready for them, maybe take their word for it instead of downvoting and demanding justification? Think about how much I had to expose myself above just to be able to try to make a point. When we're in the long tail of remaining use-cases, they get detailed enough that you can't explain them without getting personal and very profileable.

[–] Sammy@infosec.pub 4 points 4 days ago

I love X11 and I love your passion for it! You're right, and the benefit of Linux is that we all get to be a little picky about the bits that make up our OS.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

How is Qubes these days? I tried using it years ago and had a bit of a difficult time. Maybe it's time to try again, as I'm sure it has improved, along with my Unix knowledge.

[–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Getting a lot of benefits from it. I'm a happy user!

If I mostly talk about downsides in order to keep this brief:

It can work fine to just install and start using out of the box as it is, even for Linux noobs. You can get pretty far without having to dig super deep. But to really customize it you get into things like Salt management (or figuring out an alternative) and building your own templates. This can take a lot of time and effort. Consider it "playing on hard mode". For me it's fine since I enjoy these things and you can take it bit by bit. Lots of helpful stuff shared in the community like the repo I linked.

It's not 100% jank-free. More niche things like ZFS integration, GPU passthrough and sys-gui qubes take some tweaking or even patching depending on your hardware and use and I have run into bugs with all of those. Chaining Tor and DNS on some IPv6 networks is still not all there but looked like WIP last I checked in. If you stay on well-throdden path things are a lot more stable.

Would love if they manage to migrate away from github.com...

That said, things are indeed steadily improving and people generally seem helpful and constructive when I look at the issue tracker^1^. I think it's worth giving it another chance now that 4.3 is out.

^1^: Example: Didn't have to report those bugs myself as someone beat me to it. And fixes for most did come in.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

QubesOS

You okay? Who is out to get you?

[–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sorry, that's totally off topic (rule 1) and none of your business I'm afraid.

Feels like you're meming on some uncharitable stereotype at the expense of myself, QubesOS, and room for more interesting convos in this thread. Comments like this might make other users with less hard skin afraid to post their own setup if stuff like this is all they get back. It leads to less diversity and real talk, more low-effort memes and the sameish sway-with-a-fancy-background-and-fastfetch.

As this little community grows I think it would be sweet to try not to actively reproduce the bad aspects of Reddit.

(Yes, I'm a blast at parties)

[–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Red Hat's out for us I tell you. Hide your display servers and hide your CPU architectures because they be deprecating e'rybody out here.