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[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago

At this point I'm just assuming we're looking at a greedflation scenario again. They're jacking up prices for an assumed increase in demand due to AI. It's bullshit market manipulation for profit. Also fuck AI I'm fucking sick of this shit already.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This whole "America First" and interfering foreign imports/exports is really working out great. /s

He interferes with the economy like some communist government.

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/trump-introduces-25-percent-tariff-on-export-of-chips-including-nvidia-h200-amd-mi325x-figure-could-increase-in-the-future

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Part of the problem is lack of interference, they are not regulating the cartels behind this and with Trump they won't be because all it takes is a bribe.

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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 55 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Oh look, American tech is just to completely implode all at once, neat.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So far they are sustaining each other in a giant circle jerk of investments. It is only going to implode when they run out of money, and the problem is they have a mindbogglingly huge amount of money.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Call me cynical, but I believe that companies might be happy keeping the prices high if it means they can shuffle consumers onto computers as a service. Maybe wasted silicon will end up being good for business.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago

This doesn’t seem long term viable. 

they would have to massively expand the amount of compute once the current boom ends, otherwise someone like micron will go back to consumer RAM. Micron and nvidia won't profit long term once the demand for new data centres drops. 

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[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 days ago

American? This shit is happening globally. The Korean and Taiwanese companies are more than onboard with this.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Is there a shortage or is it just price gouging? We should be using the right terms.

I can go on Newegg right now and see tons of listings for Ram.

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[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I upgraded all of my devices to 16gb or 32gb of RAM just as all this crap started happening, before prices spiked, and made sure I have enough storage.

Now I'm just praying that all of the hardware holds out for 2-3 years to weather this storm. Please keep on chugging, my 5800X in a B550 mobo.....I literally can't afford to replace you anytime soon.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Same. I'm thinking about replacing the PSU, which is one of the original parts, to ensure the rest of the parts don't fail due to improper power delivery.

At least PSUs haven't yet spiked in price.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Good thing about a PSU is they are simply basic electronics with some copper wire in them

[–] starblursd@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Copper shortage rumored 😭

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Gonna have to make a complaint to Ea-nāṣir

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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 5 days ago (5 children)

You would think that RAM manufacturers would ramp up production. Hopefully the fact that they aren't means the bubble is going to burst within a couple of years.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 50 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I doubt it will take a couple years. They're burning through so much cash right now that they'll be bankrupt in a couple years and despite sunk cost fallacy they won't let it get that bad. At some point they'll cut their losses and pivot to some other new fad. The small handful of uses that make sense will stick around and a few companies will be in just the right place to make it turn a profit but the vast majority won't. Some will go bankrupt (if we're lucky Meta and/or X will be one of them) and some will just write it off as a failed experiment. Either way just as hard as prices spiked we'll see them cratering before they rebound back to normal. Six months would be highly optimistic, but a year probably isn't out of the question.

Of course all of this might be moot if Shitler manages to start WW3 by attacking Greenland. If that happens RAM prices will be the least of everyone's worries.

[–] brightwindow@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Practically all DRAM production is sold out for next year, there isn't going to be any significant new supply into the consumer market in that timeframe. Also, when these massive piles of memory end up sitting in a warehouse because the bubble pops, this stock will never make it to the consumer market, because AI data centres use HBM, which is soldered directly to motherboards in such a way that it's impossible to turn it into modules again. Even if all the DRAM producers start selling to the consumer market jan 1st 2027, the pent up demand will still probably keep prices high.

All that to say, I don't think prices will crater.

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[–] 0tan0d@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Im sure china will and the tradional manufacturers will cry about losing market share while begging for tarrifs and handouts.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It takes time to build factories, the big three RAM manufacturers apparently think AI is a bubble, although that could just be an excuse for price fixing.

China's cxmt is apparently ramping up production, but they're still relatively small.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

China is pushing hard to make their domestic brands the new standard world wide so they're not worried about whether the bubble pops or not. They want to drive prices down even if that means selling at a loss because they know that's what it's going to take to dislodge the entrenched players. For better or worse it's likely a winning strategy because the existing players are more concerned with maximizing their quarterly profits rather than meeting any kind of consumer demand or indeed even selling to consumers at all.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They are ramping up production. But it all goes to AI data centers.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Why can't anyone go against the current and sell to individual customers only?

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 43 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If I as a customer pay, idk, 10€ per gb of RAM and an AI data center pays 20, do you really think they are going to consider how they are feeding a bubble that in the not-so-long term will burst and fuck them up too?

Nah, mate, they are capitalists, they only care about the money they can make in the extremely short term.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 4 days ago

But bulk orders typically cost less

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 21 points 5 days ago

Because consumer sales is slow and expensive.

What do you think costs more? Building RAM sticks for individual users who'll pay $200-300 per 8/16 DRAM modules, or building sticks for enterprise customers who in one single order will spend millions of USD? Also latter requires no fancy packaging, marketing, or variations in the product.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

Selling in bulk is convenient for manufacturers too.

Profits.

And if say SK Hynux decides to only sell to consumers, Samsung and the others will sell even more to data enters because there's more cash to be made.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

I’m expecting software development to begin focusing on optimization in about 3 years as businesses begin to complain about feature updates slowing things down on the machines that they are keeping longer than before.

CTOs/CIOs that were holding off on purchasing new hardware because of the upcoming improved CPUs from AMD and Intel lost a horrible gamble.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am intensely lucky and smart to gave gotten my new computer and a 14TB HDD right before this insanity happened. I am thinking of buying another 8TB HDD just for the hell of it.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I feel similarly. I pretty much maxed the RAM on my DDR5 gaming/daily driving desktop before this. I wish I had also maxed the RAM on my DDR4 server, though I did acquire significant storage space and a new SSD while it was more affordable. If we see a reasonable dip in storage prices or RAM, I'm buying spare drives in the sizes I use so I can be a bit more insulated from market swings and will have spares on-site immediately if needed.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I got 64gb of DDR5 ram. I got my computer from Dell and maxed out all what was available on their option. I have zero regrets.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Yeehaw! Sounds like you are set for a while. If you get replaced by AI, you could sell 32 gigs and live off that for a couple of years while still being able to run a zillion tabs at once!

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago

I traded a 3080 for $300 off a 5070ti and a week later they stop making them.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago

jensen needs a new shiny jacket though.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm thinking about making an EU petition on this RAM pricing chaos.

[–] BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Are you joking, or are you actually serious?

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