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[–] Lor@leminal.space 13 points 11 hours ago

We cannot forget that DOGE has also stolen data from agencies. Most worrisome being the IRS who has records of all of your interest paying accounts and investments. One only need to use your imagination a little to what can happen. It is gonna be BAD.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So how do we poison the dataset?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 7 points 14 hours ago

I suspect they're depending on data brokers who collect name and location from 3rd party apps. Set up fakes of a bunch of their metrics sending data, and you can fill it with junk

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 47 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

Fucking hate how these shitheads take words from Tolkien's works and bastardise them. Palantir, Anduril.

What's next, a social credit system named "Silmaril"? An organisation that harvests the organs of homeless called "Rivendell"?

Just fucking stop.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I mean... Palantir showed Denethor false images of doom and despair fed by Sauron. It drove him to become a completely mad tyrant.

I think Palantir is a very apt name. They just don't realise why.

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They just don’t realise why.

Yup. Just how Sauron was able to see via the Palantiri, the Swiss army have concluded that they can't rule out US intelligence accessing data through Palantir systems, despite reassurances.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

American "reassurance" is a "trust me bro" with no backing and no consequences for them if they break it.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 27 points 17 hours ago

Tolkein's idyllic structure for a society, the shire, is frequently analyzed through a lens of "is this anarchism?" and it's not all that uncommon to conclude "yes"

all these fuckers read Tolkien and adopted the imagery of the villains. none of them realize that the message is that all the top level people are addicted to power. the people who actually get shit done, the hobbits, they are tempted by power because it's tempting, but ultimately value singing songs, making tea, and eating potatoes too much to want to possess the ultimate power in the universe. almost everyone who comes into contact with the one ring wants to possess it forever. Bilbo's first desire for it is to use it to help him escape a dangerous situation. Frodo is indifferent to it at first. Sam immediately hates it, feels guilt for letting Frodo carry it alone, and commits himself to destroying it.

You're not supposed to read Tolkien and implement fascism. you're supposed to read Tolkien and learn to value pacifism

[–] alberttcone@sh.itjust.works 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I think that’s a Thiel thing. Tolkein was was one of his obsessions growing up. It doesn’t surprise me that he saw a plot device intended to be a warning as a really cool idea…

[–] PolarKraken@programming.dev 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

After listening to some of the Behind the Bastards on Thiel's Antichrist obsession, his names for things are more understandable. Not by being sensible, by his demonstrated tendency to read things and take interpretations from them that make no sense to anyone else.

So yeah I'm sure he's got some nutso bananas reinterpretation of what a Palantir is, etc.

He seems unwell, truly.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

I mean, Thiel is part of the 'basically an actual vampire irl' club, right?

Gets infusions?

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 5 points 16 hours ago

Palantir should be trialed for crimes against humanity and literature

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 points 17 hours ago

Tolkien is rolling in his grave.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

An organisation that harvests the organs of homeless called “Rivendell”?

Surely "Mordor" would be a better choice?

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Would shit like incogni or delete me help in countering this somewhat?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

No idea what level of defense is actually necessary; not having a phone, or any bills or official correspondence sent in your name to your home will suffice, but I don't know what it takes which is less than that

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

First of all getting rid of the phone and internet will not remove what is already there. If I died right now all the data is still going to be there and not erased on account of me being dead.

I have been easing into reducing my online signature as much as possible over the past few years. It is far from perfect, I know. That is also the stuff going forward and does not handle what is already past.

Like I still watch videos on YouTube mostly, and I still have a compromised Gmail account (compromised in that no matter what I do someone or someones have been using it to sign up for shit that clearly isn't mine). And while I no longer use my real for social media, and my last known usage of Facebook was from last summer (and I greatly diminished what I was doing over a few years at that point). None of this removes what data brokers already have.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, it takes something like the California data brokers opt out to do that.

Or actively poisoning their data sets at scale

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

So who can be held responsible for when the app fucks up ?

I wonder if KARP will still be for pubic executions when they surround him with dark eyes and bright torches. I wonder if KARP recognizes that whomever killed that health care CEO ... that was a public execution.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 14 hours ago

Article starts with "Palantir..." 'nuf sa(i)d.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 23 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Every palantir executive and voting shareholder needs to be prosecuted and have their assets siezed to pay for the damage they’ve done to American democracy and the Palestinian people and infrastructure

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Defiling much beloved fantasy literature by naming their shitty surveillance systems after them. In other words he should fuck off and call them Daddy Trump or sth else and leave LOTR alone.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago

I too would want to know what this means

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 hours ago

The same government officials paying to use it are probably the people mainly invested in it.

[–] Luxyr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Is it possible that people could use flock or palantir stuff to track and collect info on ice agents? Their security is shit, yeah?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 hours ago

ICE regularly uses fake license plates. You can do a bit, in that they dont swap constantly, but its not going to be as good as the tracking of private citizens

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 14 hours ago

Flock's security is shit.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 18 hours ago

Flock most certainly, I have no information on the palantir app.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Palantir is literally Evil Corp.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 23 hours ago

Some more reporting by GamersNexus:
https://youtu.be/5Idb_D4Tdu8

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[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

oh awesome, Palantir, the same company profiting off the genocide in Gaza

CEO Alex Karp has been a vocal supporter of Israel. In November 2023, he stated, "I am proud that we are supporting Israel in every way we can."

After October 2023, Palantir has provided Israel with multiple AI-powered data analytics tools for military and intelligence purposes.

In January 2024, Palantir held its board meeting in Israel and entered into a “strategic partnership” with Israel’s Ministry of Defense to help Israel's “war effort.”

In October 2024, Norway's largest asset manager, Storebrand, divested its Palantir shares, worth $24 million, due to concerns that Palantir's work for Israel might implicate Storebrand in violations of international humanitarian law and human rights.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The Palantir tools were used to analyze the data trove that Microsoft was hosting for Israel. It contained all of the cellular data (metadata and call recording/MMS contents/data traffic) for the entirety of Palestine.

That tool's detection of 'terrorists' was used to justify a massive portion of the air strikes on Palestine. Their beta test resulted in a genocide.

Palantir is complicit in war crimes and genocide, never forget that.

Now the fascists are using the terrorist language to target their political opponents in the US and using the same tools of genocide.

[–] Sineljora@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Microslop is still hosting for Israel, even more than before. Don’t believe Brad Smiths recent lies about their data centers being healthy for communities either.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

That is exactly why I self host and avoid Microsoft products like the plague

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The Nazis used IBM, the GOP use Palantir.

[–] Dubiousx99@lemmy.world 118 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems like Doge might have been setup to facilitate this. They are cross referencing data from the HHS database. Big Brother.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 88 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The actual point of DOGE was to just backdoor and/or datadump as many government databases as possible and give them to Palantir. That’s it. That was the entire point. Everything else was simply theatrics.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 9 points 17 hours ago

And to just stoke Elon's ego in letting him have his own fake agency and show people that they can fuck with the economy and suffer jo consequences whatsoever.

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Also firing all the agencies and agents investigating him.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

The OMB was really behind the firings, and Russell Vought is still there and still in charge.

And he’s a Christo-fascist from childhood.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/articles/who-is-russel-vought

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Let's give credit where credit is due - This is what the GOP wants. They have complete ownership of ICE's terrorist activities and applaud what is being done.

Republicans could reign this in in a couple of days if ICE didn't have their blessing. The same is true if our corporate/billionaire media began referring to what's happening as GOP, rather than ICE activity.

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