A community dedicated to all those things in media and elsewhere that didn’t stand the test of time, at all.
I don't understand why people can't understand that multiple things can be true.
Someone can have voted for Harris, donated to her campaign, preferred her to be president, felt that personally their own lives would have been better if Harris were president, and also be disgusted that Harris is pro-genocide.
It's pretty easy to understand. The people who don't get it are the ones who are only capable of one-dimensional thought. They can't hold multiple, complex beliefs, so they assume you can't either.
Because Lemmites only see things in binary.
You're either a communist or a disgusting fascist nazi
Centrists will never understand this.
They also cannot understand that someone can say something centrists want is a losing issue and still be willing to vote for a centrist candidate, while being able to notice that they're gonna lose if they keep it up.
Also explains the reaction to Mamdani. Centrists didn't get the sex pest they wanted and went from "blue no matter who" to "party unity my ass" immediately. No progressive legislators badmouthed harris like gillibrand did with her disgusting Islamophobic attacks against Mamdani.
Centrists think everyone is like they are, inasmuch as they don't believe at all in their stated principles and will vote third party if they don't get their very first choice. We saw this in 2008 as well when they formed a fucking PAC to elect mccain because they didn't want to vote for a black man. For all the blame they throw at the left for 2016 and 2024, progressives never formed a PAC to elect trump. But if Sanders had won the nomination in 2016 or 2020, I have no doubt that we would have seen centrists campaigning for trump like we saw them campaigning for cuomo and mccain.
Yeah, it was pretty simple for anyone capable of making decisions without deferring entirely to their feelings.
The stats prove Dems are better for our economy (and rights). We were coming off a legislatively successful Democrat presidency. Serious strides were made for the working class and we were recovering from the pandemic better than any other 1st world nation. The Dem candidate was a career prosecutor with a doctorate in law.
On the other hand we had the side that the stats show are awful for our economy (and war). The candidate was an already failed president with two impeachments and an insurrection under his belt. With a doctorate in nothing but dipshittery.
You have to be pretty stupid to NOT go with option 1, including by staying home or voting for a 3rd party candidate with absolutely ZERO possibility of winning. Regardless of whether you're mad that they're maintining an allegiance with a foreign nation you aren't exactly happy with. Foreign affairs aren't exactly simple. Especially with an ally you want to keep for their strategic geopolitical position.
But, as we've learned, most Americans prefer to think with their feelings instead of their intellect. And now gestures broadly.
I just don't see how things are going to get better with a nation full of people this dumb.
Damn. Maybe she shouldn’t have been so hung-ho on the slaughter and torture of Palestinians. Maybe the DNC should have done literally anything to separate themselves from the GOP when it came to foreign policy.
Shame a lot of them just refuse/are too scared to ever recognize it. The rest of us suffer for it.
Easier to trick someone than convince them they've been tricked.
It's true! Trump hasn't sent the army after anyone! Just ICE, CBP, and the National Guard!
don't forget the Marines in Los Angeles
Well, Schumer and Jeffries are refusing to reduce ICE funding or oppose them, so we are still in the point that the Dems support everything but would like a bit more politeness and layers of obfuscation, rather than ICE not killing people in the streets and being the American Gestapo.
Downvoted for US politics. And this isn't agedlikemilk material, this is agedlikewine. She was absolutely right.
Fuck the pedo voters, third party voters, and non-voters.
What is posted here is the tweet calling it a lie, not her debate or rally where the claim is made. The tweet has aged like milk.
Yeah but she loved the genoside, that’s why we have to have utter incompetent apocalypse every goddamned day for three more years.
and also still have the same genocide happening, plus even more acts of war to boot
I'd argue a worse genocide.
Dems were stuck on "but but Israel is an ally" and tried to gently suggest that they stop. But Biden did take some action. The US even built a port to send in aid. Now obviously we had the power to stop sending Israel money and supporting them. That's where they failed.
Trump however just said good work and keep it up. He's encouraged Israel to go faster and joked about how great the strip will be once it's freely developed real estate.
So yeah, one of these is clearly a worse option
one of these is clearly a worse option
Following USA politics as an outsider, this has baffled me greatly the past year and more. Is harm reduction really such a difficult concept? It's like that damn bus scenario, just with only bad options.
Something like: There's five people on the bus, and the brakes stop working, so they vote for what they should do. Two say they should drive off a cliff, and one says they should just swerve and crash into the nearby ditch. Two people don't vote because they want neither. The bus drives off the cliff and everyone dies
And the wholesale destruction of USAID and PEPFAR means people are simultaneously starving to death in chunks of the world, not getting vaccines, and also not getting HIV prevention meds, which means long term, HIV infection is going to increase worldwide over time. That is going to be a massive, silent genocide that will be orders of magnitude worse, but largely undocumented.
That was a serious, serious fuckup on voters parts. Not to mention massive cuts to everyday things like critical medical R&D, science R&D, disaster preparedness, NASA, department of education, PBS and Corp for public broadcasting, department of health, FDA + food safety programs, and many other programs that people take for granted without thinking (housing grants for home buying, federal student loans, food stamps, weather prediction for natural disasters, Medicare/ACA/Medicaid, etc)
His cuts to the IRS are going to result in less money for shit like bridges, roads, and electrical grids too.
Doesn't matter.
The people who voted 3rd party or didn't vote because they were mad about Israel only ever cared about their own personal feelings. If they actually gave a shit about Palestine, they would have made the decision that hurt them the least. That's not what they did.
It was all about their own satisfaction.
Purists couldn't vote for the lesser of two evils. The choice was: vote for genocide or vote for genocide+even more horrible shit. Somehow genocide+even more horrible shit seemed more appealing.
Instead we resumed the sale of 2000 pound bombs to Israel and found some new countries to bomb. That and the population of Gaza is still dying just after the election the bots seemed to stop caring.
Why did she spend so much time courting Republicans? It's a mystery
Was it was the billion dollars she "raised" in a few months? Trump raised about 900 million in four years, she raised a billion in months. Unprecedented.
Standard US political wisdom reveals that neither D (30%) or Rs (30%) can win an election without Independent voters (40% of voters). So, you need to have an independent issue or three to get enough votes to win.
Kamala only spent a few months, and she spent a lot of it on Republicans (various articles about this before election, Politico, Hill). The math doesn't work, that's not how you win elections. That's not how anyone wins elections. It would have been unprecedented for her to win, also.
I think she took a knee, if you can come up with another reason I would love to hear it, for real. This is very disturbing to me and I wish I had never come to this conclusion, but can think of no other reason.
Why did she spend so much time courting Republicans? It's a mystery
Not a mystery. That's what the overpriced consultants the DNC hired told them to do. They said to stop using the slogan never back and told Tim Walz to stop calling Trump and Vance weird.
allow me to rephrase. Why did consultants recommend courting Republicans? It is a mystery
keep in mind this has NEVER WORKED BEFORE
Dems should be courting the “non voters”. They are 30% of the electorate, and you’re not going to change a Trump supporter’s mind.