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Fox News Analyst Rips Trump for Hypocrisy over Maduro and Venezuela (www.mediaite.com)
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[–] tal@lemmy.today 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Minutes after that exchange, the libertarian pundit took to X/Twitter and ripped Trump supporters who were attacking her over a long-held position

Yeah, I suspect that Trump's going to make a bunch of right-libertarians pretty unhappy, many of whom want less US foreign involvement. He basically spent a long time appealing to people who wanted less US foreign involvement (e.g. with Ukraine) and then turned around and jumped right into foreign involvement in South America, which probably isn't going to sell well with them.

I saw several articles over the past couple days where Rand Paul and Thomas Massie, who are pretty visible Congressional voices along right-libertarian lines, were complaining about Trump intervening in Venezuela.

Probably fewer of those than there are, say, social conservatives, but I expect that for a lot of them, Venezuela is gonna be a sticking point.

[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's almost as if Trumps entire life has been about lying to get what he wants...

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Seriously. Why would anybody believe a guy who made his career on getting away with lying?

[–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ask the almost 80 million people who voted him into a second term.

They dumb.

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Shit. I'm dumb, and I could see past his lies. Nah, they on another lower level, a stupidity that we don't got a word for as humans.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social -1 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's not "dumb" - some of those voters have advanced degrees like a PhD or MD - so much as it is an emotional preference for authority. I likewise take a lot on faith daily - like I am not personally an expert in nuclear physics, or economics, etc. - and in the same manner such voters have been shown to rely more upon what they are told by experts, like news media, than what they see with their own eyes.

Which in itself is not "wrong", so much as it has been twisted (by corruption of the media).

Also, go back and watch that historic debate between Biden and Trump. Both are geriatric, but one could at the time at least form a coherent sentence. So based solely on that debate, how would you vote? Or should making oneself knowledge about matters have been made a prerequisite to vote?

It was democracy itself that led us to this point. It's tough to implement properly.

Whereas on Lemmy the attitude that I see most prevalent is "they dumb", ignoring the complexity of the various processes and making people feel superior (tribal), as if the same identical trends were not also happening in virtually every democracy world-wide. Failure to properly diagnose the true underlying causes is simply going to lead to the identical outcome everywhere else as well... Like in a few years Canada may not so much be conquered so much as literally ask for the USA to allow it to join?

So I would advise not to be so quick to turn to an answer that provides emotional satisfaction without the benefit of it (entirely on its own) being fully, genuinely the absolute underlying cause.

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's alot to read and I'll read it later. But that first part.

No yea I agree. There are a lot of folks on that side who are smart as all fuck. I think when I say dumb I'm more tongue in cheek(?) Type of insult. They're dumb for their beliefs and dumb for how they act. I definitely have met some who are out right geniuses in what they do, but they just have dumbass views.

I'll read the rest of your post later, as it was interesting, but the duty of being a Father calls.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Upvoting. If only it were that simple, yeah!

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It'd be a lot easier if they were just dumb. The sad part is they aren't. Some of em are morons, but you know that when you see em..it sucks folks who can be so smart can be so greedy and hateful. I don't understand, folks. I just try to live and let live. But it seems to be getting harder and harder to even live that way anymore.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago

Some are - as too are some on the other side as well (though not in equal proportions) - while some are strategic, looking to use him to accomplish their ends, and so on.

People always keep forgetting: more people voted against Hillary Clinton than for Trump, and then the same with Joe Biden, who only at the last moment swapped out with Kamala Harris, someone who was relatively unknown, and also widely unpopular (across both sides of the aisle).

Nobody has ever been able to tell me an example of a democracy that after devolving into a 2-party system, managed to survive. It seems a fatal wound for any democracy, when people are forced into voting against the other side, rather than for someone in particular? There is then no longer an incentive to "do better", only to ever blame the other side for everything.

Sorry, I wish I knew of solutions, but instead I only see as far as problems. That said, educating people may still be the solution to move forward? Or at least that much seems true in the fight against misinformation. It's sorta like doctors learning that they needed to wash their hands when moving between one patient and another, to avoid spreading contamination.

Now disinformation on the other hand... unfortunately that's a whole other story, and affects all nations world-wide (to varying degrees). Continuing the medical analogy, that's more akin to an infection, and to solve it we both need to fight against it, plus also then return to the misinformation aspect to avoid spreading unintentional falsehoods - either one alone is insufficient, though necessary.

In short, those who still have a democracy, maybe try to do whatever is needed to keep it?

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

As if you can't have advanced degrees and be stupid in other areas at the same time, ignorant and stupid and emotionally volatile and immature people are the ones that voted for that turd

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

those have to be purchased degrees or ones earned via paying someone else to do the work. IIRC when that actress or something got caught paying someone to do her kids' work a bunch of those workers admitted to existing and having done it for a lot of wealthy people

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago

I mean... sure, some of them, but definitely not all? After all, conservatives make up more than a third of the entire country? I think there's room for nuances, particularly when the Democrats are roughly equally corrupt (defined as receiving money from special interest groups), and even more inept at politics (I'm not talking Bernie Sanders, I'm talking the rest of the party that threw him away).

It's like the Linux vs. Windows debate - moral purity sounds high and mighty and all, but what about those of us forced to live in the real world who have to use Windows (even if rarely) for our jobs?

Particularly people outside of the USA like to look down and judge... as if nearly identical disinformation warfare campaigns are not hard at work there too. We in the USA knows what that feels like - "haha, but surely that will never happen HERE" (meanwhile, it was happening here for decades, under our very own noses, but like the analogy of a frog in a cooking pot, we did not jump out so long as it proceeded forward slowly). It CAN and it IS happening elsewhere - pretty much everywhere, just at a less advanced stage.

But maybe other nations political systems are more robust and can handle the onslaught better than we could?

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm curious as to what circumstances could unfold in which Canada would be asking to join the USA in the next 100 years, let alone in "a few" years.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Voting, the same as happened in the USA, where I would have said identically about it as well, 10 years ago.

There seem to be a lot of Trump supporters north of the USA border.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

That's an interesting take. I'll guess we'll see.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 6 days ago

Youre absolutely right. Well put.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Rips? Like in half?

[–] Bombastic@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

At least this time they didn't use "slams"

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today -1 points 6 days ago

Sorry. I took all the slam and did it to your mom last weekend

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago

We can only hope... Needs to be mixed with SLAMS though.

[–] outerspace@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To shreds you say?

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

To pieces you say? Happy cake day too!

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Why? The hypocrisy is the point.