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[–] sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io 1 points 12 hours ago

gestures at butterfly Is this loss?

[–] jaselle@lemmy.ca 3 points 15 hours ago

On the left are the 5 classical Chinese elements. On the right are characters made by combining the elements, but they're mostly gibberish as far as I know.

[–] YICHM@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It is unfortunate that the characters 鈥釷 are replaced by 钬钍, ruining the consistency.

[–] laserm@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I mean in traditional Chinese they're probably fine..

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

For anyone as slow as I am: the symbols in the matrix are all made of two hanzi each, by combining the individual hanzi from the vectors with each other.

Btw, this combining quality is said to be the reason why Chinese manufacturers tend to print awful-looking English (and other Western languages) on labels and in manuals: since hanzi are all monospace but can be smooshed to combine with each other, Chinese people don't really care about proportions in the characters. So they use their monospace hanzi fonts with weird monospace English characters in them, stretch or squeeze them as they see fit, and call it a day.

[–] laserm@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

LIKETHIS何

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] YICHM@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Recognised characters:

  • 淦 -- alt. form of 幹 -- alt. form of 姦, from zh-min-nan -- fuck
  • 釷 -- thorium
  • 林 -- forest; a surname
  • 沐 -- appears in 沐浴 -- shower
  • 杜 -- appears in 杜甫 -- a famous poet
  • 淡 -- watered down; appears in 淡水 -- fresh water
  • 炎 -- flame
  • 灶 -- stove
  • 圭 -- appears in 日圭 -- alt. form of 日晷 -- sundial
[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

With my limited knowledge of no Mandarin at all, I recognize the vectors to be the 5 chinese elements (metal, wood, water, fire and earth).

The matrix just combines these symbols into new characters, but no clue how most of them are read. Could make sense in the context of alchemy, could be total bs. The few I do recognize work sometimes, like fire + fire = blaze, others don't - or I'm reading them wrong.

[–] RandomStickman@fedia.io 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot of them aren't common words at all. A lot of them with the 金 radical are probably names of elements. At random I looked up 釷 and it's the name for Thorium lol

[–] YICHM@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

A lot of them... name of elements

Only two of them (釷, 鈥: Holmium) are currently used element names.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

5 Chinese elements

Can these be used to summon the Chinese Captain Planet?

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Some of these are uncommon but they are legit Chinese characters.

[–] EpeeGnome@feddit.online 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I know even less Mandarin that you, so I hit it with Google translate. It translates the vectors the same as you did. It tries to translate the matrix characters with various odd results. It keeps changing, but guesses things like "Holmium sulfide smear" and "Thorium juice stove gui." If I actually take a picture so it can do a full analysis on a still image, it transcribes them into surprisingly accurate unicode characters that look almost exactly like the original. It even includes a pronunciation guide, but the translation just says that they are unintelligible characters. I'm guessing that these are syntactically valid character combinations that are basically nonsense.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago

It likely tries to read these whole thing as a sentence hence “thorium juice stove gui”.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes. I don't know mandarin, but it makes sense if you look at the figures.

On the left side of the equation, the top icon of the column vector is a house. The first icon in the row vector is also a house. So in the matrix on the right side of the equation, the top left icon is two houses.

The rightmost icon in the row vector is a +- sign. So the top right icon in the matrix is a house next to a +- sign.

The middle icon is clearly shortened as a slanted line with two horizontal lines above it on the left side of the merged icon. Because the entire centre cross section of the matrix (the middle row and the middle line form a cross) contain that icon-part on their left side.

The diagonal (top left to bottom right), (the identity), is all double icons in some sense. (House times house is two houses next to each other, running man times running man is two running men on top of each other, etc)

Theiy're all pretty logical in that sense. I haven't a clue what it all means though

[–] laserm@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The characters in the final matrix are the combination of the characters in the operands, according to the rules of matrix multiplication. (So the characters of the first row and column of the matrix consists of two 金 [metal] etc)

[–] myslsl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Gram Schmidt process got me feeling like a Ming dynasty peasant.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

First of all it's just Chinese. Mandarin is one (Most common one) of several spoken dialects but they're all written with the same hanzi (symbols). At least, that's my understanding.

Second, as far as I can tell this really is a Chinese linear algebra joke. The left side is just the five elements of Chinese philosophy (Metal, wood, water, fire, soil), and the right side seems like it might be people's names? They're unintelligible enough to me that I assume they're names. But the names are constructed of hanzi that use the same radicals (Brush strokes) as the five elements, combined with each other according the the 2D matrix. I wish I knew what the names were but, I'm a beginner student.

[–] TrippaSnippa@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago

The meanings of the characters in the matrix aren't part of the joke, just the radicals used in them.

[–] laserm@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I think that the elements in the final matrix are just the characters in the operands put next to each other (like in math we put a to signify a*b, they put 金 金 together to make up.. whatever is that character in row 1, column 1 of the final matrix.