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cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/23925690

the problem

The web is littered with enshitified Tor-hostile resources generally deployed with the naive idea that Tor users are criminals. The Tor community can barely function. The web is broken in countless ways and it’s not always obvious whether Tor users are targeted by the marginalisation because firewalls never state why they are blocking. Sometimes they block based on geolocation or user-agent strings, and sometimes a resource is simply down for everyone. Tor users are left assuming their exit node IP is the culprit.

Also a problem: some people actually have no Internet at home. For some it is temporary and for others it is a permanent way of living a mostly analog life.

the solution (for many cases)

Use the clearnet at a cafe with open access. Of course it’s unreasonable to haul a desktop computer into a cafe or to carry a laptop at all times, so it would be useful to send fetch orders from your PC to your phone. When the phone connects to public Wi-Fi, you tap to execute the queue of fetch orders. Then when back at your PC you download the fulfilled orders from the phone.

This could even be useful within the home, since the block or malfunction can be a number of things. A smartphone could try to execute fetch orders over Orbot, which may or may not fail. And if it fails, it remains an unfulfilled order to retry in a cafe.

Aria2 would be perfect for the underlying heavy lifting because it supports many protocols (HTTP, FTP, bittorrent), and it exists on both the PC and Android. The Android code is apparently just a backend. It’s broken or useless on its own and needs a controller such as the app proposed here.

insufficient alternatives

The usual workarounds have compromises. A VPN may or may not work but it’s still a bit far from anonimity. The VPN provider is essentially like another ISP who can snoop on you.

Download managers already exist on smartphones, but there is no seamless PC interoperability. And (AFAIK) they are just for simple files, not for webpages or Youtube videos.

There is Newpipe but it has no PC interoperability. You must search YT using the Newpipe UI.

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[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Have you tried MyJDownloader app or web ui for JDownloader2? I haven't used it myself, but I think it might fit the bill here

[–] debanqued@beehaw.org 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

That looks useful for sure. Not sure what it does as far as direct PC-phone transactions but I think it would help with some of my needs.

It apparently uses a server for a lot of things, but in some cases that will be useful, such as reaching heavily restricted websites.

(edit: I don’t find the phone app.. i wonder if the jar file can run on android)

[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For some reason, it is only available on google play unfortunately. I wasn't able to find it on f-droid :/

See https://my.jdownloader.org/apps/

Dev name is AppWork GmbH on play store. App name MyJDownloader Remote Official

[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It apparently uses a server for a lot of things, but in some cases that will be useful, such as reaching heavily restricted websites.

Perhaps you should try crossposting it to !selfhosted@lemmy.world as well?

Those folks are quite knowledgeable as well and they might have a solution for this too

[–] debanqued@beehaw.org 2 points 6 days ago

I would not interact on a centralised Cloudflare node like LW. But I still appreciate your suggestion because it might inspire me to check with some of these decentralised venues:

  • krabb.org/c/selfhosted
  • europe.pub/c/SelfHosted
  • lemmy.nexus/c/selfhosted
  • lemmy.rmict.nl/c/selfhost
  • selfhosted.forum/c/main
[–] alzymologist@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What about just adb sideload? That's how I do it. Being offgrider, you are supposed to be able tho handle this or have a techy geek in your community.

[–] debanqued@beehaw.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

sideload what, exactly?

To get apps, I usually bring a tor-only laptop into a cafe and download apk files, then later sideload them using adb. But this does nothing to solve the problem I described.

[–] alzymologist@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

Oh sorry misunderstood the probem. Good idea. This actually might be a simple gig.