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[–] Melchior@feddit.org 1 points 23 minutes ago

France, Spain, BeNeLux and the Nordics tend to be against watering it down. Since this needs a qualified majority to pass, the law has a good chance of standing.

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago

This’ll happen in the EU and in the UK. I don’t think it matters that much, electric cars are trendy now and culture is changing. Even if they don’t ban I don’t think it’ll be long before petrol/diesel car sales sit at around 30%.

[–] ArfArfWoof@feddit.org 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Oh wow, truly unexpected. No one could have seen this coming.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Still incredibly disappointing though

[–] ArfArfWoof@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Is it? I try to keep myself in the know car-wise and I really never saw a future where this wasn't going to happen. The deadline is going to be pushed back multiple times before it is reached, and when we finally get there (mid 2040s IMO) it will be so watered down that it effectively says "Keep doing what you're doing, good job guys."

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, isn't that future disappointing?

[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That's very bad for the people but very good for the rich

[–] Bababasti@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago

Just like every political decision then.

[–] kwero@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I have a book called "Warren Buffet on practically everything"

For those who don't know him, Warren Buffet is, alongside George Soros, one of the best investors of all time. He is single largest investor in Coca-Cola and Apple.

He is basically the godfather of american capitalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett

One of the strangest thing about him is that he owns ruthless corporations, but on a personal level, he is actually surprisingly human. For instance, he publically criticized the Bush administration for cutting taxes on rich people:

https://www.npr.org/2007/11/15/16314513/warren-buffett-backs-the-estate-tax

https://www.reuters.com/article/business/buffett-backs-estate-tax-decries-wealth-gap-idUSN14423830/

Don't get me wrong. I don't think he is a good guy, but as far as billionaires are concerned, I would put him in the the least evil category.

Anyway, I got that book right on my shelf.

It's a collection of news stories about Buffet published in Fortune Magazine and carefully selected by the author because she found them interesting. One of the chapters is about why he decided in 2009 to invest in an unknown chinese company called BYD.

Here is the original story in PDF:

Warren Buffett takes charge - April 13, 2009

Warren Buffett is famous for his rules of investing: When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is usually the reputation of the business that remains intact. You should invest in a business that even a fool can run, because someday a fool will. And perhaps most famously, Never invest in a business you cannot understand.

So when Buffett's friend and longtime partner in Berkshire Hathaway (BRKB), Charlie Munger, suggested early last year that they invest in BYD, an obscure Chinese battery, mobile phone, and electric car company, one might have predicted Buffett would cite rule No. 3 above. He is, after all, a man who shunned the booming U.S. tech industry during the 1990s

Buffett, who is 78, was intrigued by Munger's description of the entrepreneur behind BYD, a man named Wang ChuanFu, whom he had met through a mutual friend. "This guy," Munger tells Fortune, "is a combination of Thomas Edison and Jack Welch - something like Edison in solving technical problems, and something like Welch in getting done what he needs to do. I have never seen anything like it

Coming from Munger, that meant a lot

Last fall Berkshire Hathaway bought 10% of BYD for $230 million. The deal, which is awaiting final approval from the Chinese government, didn't get much notice at the time. It was announced in late September, as the global financial markets teetered on the abyss. But Buffett and Munger and Sokol think it is a very big deal indeed. They think BYD has a shot at becoming the world's largest automaker, primarily by selling electric cars, as well as a leader in the fast-growing solar power industr

In acquiring a stake in BYD, Buffett broke a couple of his own rules. "I don't know a thing about cellphones or batteries," he admits. "And I don't know how cars work." But, he adds "Charlie Munger and Dave Sokol are smart guys, and they do understand it. And there's no question that what's been accomplished since 1995 at BYD is extraordinary."

One more thing reassured him. Berkshire Hathaway first tried to buy 25% of BYD, but Wang turned down the offer. He wanted to be in business with Buffett - to enhance his brand and open doors in the U.S., he says - but he would not let go of more than 10% of BYD's stock. "This was a man who didn't want to sell his company," Buffett says. "That was a good sign."

(..............)

Wang typically works until 11 p.m. or midnight, five or six days a week. "In China, people of my generation put work first and life second," says the CEO, whose wife takes responsibility for raising their two children

Wang himself grew up in extreme poverty. His parents, both farmers, died before he entered high school, and he was raised by an older brother and sister. The train ride from the village where he grew up to Central South Industrial University of Technology, where he earned his chemistry degree, took him by Yellow Mountain, a popular destination for hikers and tourists, but he has never visited there. "I didn't go then because we had no money," he says. "I don't go now because we have no time."

As for accumulating wealth? "I'm not interested in it," he claims. He certainly doesn't live a very lavish lifestyle. He was paid about $265,000 in 2008, and he lives in a BYD-owned apartment complex with other engineers. His only indulgences are a Mercedes and a Lexus, and they have a practical purpose: He takes their engines apart to see how they work

The company itself is frugal. Until recently, executives always flew coach.

One told me he was appalled when he learned that Ford, which lost billions last year, had staged a gala at the Hotel George V during the Paris auto show. By contrast, the last time BYD executives traveled to the Detroit auto show they rented a suburban house to save the cost of hotel rooms

(.................)

"How did BYD get so far ahead?" Warren Buffett asked Wang, speaking through a translator. "Our,company is built on technological know-how," Wang answered. Wary as always of a technology play, Buffett asked how BYD would sustain its lead. "We'll never, never rest," Wang replied.

https://ganahl.info/2010/byd.warrenbuffed.pdf

This story was originally published in 2009. The book was published in 2012.

Look at BYD now...

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

"We'll never, never rest"

The translator wrongly translated "they" with "we", because Mr. Wang meant the ~~slaves~~ workers will never rest.