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    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 88 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Just don't have windows installed.

    [–] highball@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Yep, you learn how to get things done. If your goal is to use something that's strictly for Windows, then probably you should be using Windows. Same as MacOS, same as Linux, and same as any other OS out there. Same things could be said for touch screen vs. MnK vs. controller.

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Or at least virtualize it. With USB and PCIe passthrough, you can basically use Windows for anything but direct access to some PC components (Everything not connected via USB and PCIe, so only the MB iirc), and (many) games (if you don't have a second, just-working GPU for an VFIO-Passtrough)

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    [–] galaxy_nova@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    I have windows specifically for one game with shitty anti cheat, I don’t like it but it is what is is.

    That's me with Battlefield 6. I fucking hate it, but I have too much fun playing BF6 with friends to only have Linux.

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    [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    That's a bit extreme. I keep a windows install around, just in case. It's just not in grub; I have to get into the bios boot menu and manually select it.

    [–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Is dual booting really that common? Whenever I need to test something on windows I just use a vm

    [–] highball@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    Probably just the recent converts that are still 1 foot in and 1 foot out. I don't keep a Windows VM. If something ever came up over the years, I have to decide if it's worth setting up a VM. I think even 3 years back, I was able to update my PS5 controller loading up the update tool in WINE (Bottles). Didn't even need a Windows VM then.

    [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 week ago

    There are a lot of cases where windows is preferable or easier to deal with, I think just nuking it is more common with recent converts (I lolled a bit at this turn of phrase). You probably can do everything with wine + vm, bit I just can't be bothered with passtrough and shit for the latter and update problems and requirement for 32-bit libraries of the former.

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    [–] khar21@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Every VM I've tried are horrendously laggy.

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    I used to have windows installed for years back when I first stated using Linux... But it grew to where I never booted it again, so now I just use a VM in the increasingly rare cases certain software doesn't work on Linux.

    [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    That's a bit extreme

    It really isn't. That's like saying "I keep a bottle of anthrax in my pocket just in case". It just doesn't you any good! (Yes, it's a facetious example)

    But seriously, if you need Windows for something every so often, just setup a VM. Safer, cleaner, can't mess up your host.

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    [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 57 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Also when you intentionally boot into windows and it requires at least 7 years and 9 reboots before getting ready.

    [–] bstix@feddit.dk 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Then after seemingly working it suddenly starts lagging again, and I check the task manager and see Microsoft Office hogging all the resources and filling the RAM, but I don't even have Microsoft Office.

    [–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

    Windows Search Service (or whatever it's called). Every time my VM completely locks up, it's that fucker.

    Thankfully, I can then just switch back to butter-smooth Linux for a while to do another task while Windows un-fucks itself.

    [–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Just hardkill the PSU and delete the partition afterwards.

    [–] dzsimbo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

    Yeah, just shiv it right between the cooler blades.

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    [–] r00ty@kbin.life 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    More than 51 years if there's one of those updates that will randomly decide to overwrite the UEFI removing your bootloader entirely :P

    [–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

    This is why it’s always best β€” if you absolutely must have Windows β€” to keep it quarantined on its own drive.

    [–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Soooo, you guys don’t have a reset button on your computer orrr?

    And no I’m not fun at parties

    [–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Yeah, If I don’t catch the train, I also just uninstall the rails and hope for the best.

    [–] untorquer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

    To be fair the train equivalent of windows would crash either way.

    [–] untorquer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

    Me pressing the reset button...

    [–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

    We'd know if we got invited to some.

    Mine actually doesn't.

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    [–] ezeno789@piefed.social 23 points 1 week ago
    [–] unphazed@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I'm lazy, I let it load automatically on 5s to Bazzite. One of these days I'll have to put forth effort into loading Windows (also, I am intentionally trying to use Linux over Windows, learning new stuff as I go)

    [–] KernelTale@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

    I have my grub set to 1s to Mint. Because of that I keep on accidentally booting to Windows like once a week.

    [–] comrade19@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

    I think this when you're finished for the night and you see: Update and shut down (4 minutes). Now you lay in bed while your computer boots back to windows for 15 minutes.

    [–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Idk what i did wrong but my dual boot system just doesn't show windows so I can never accidentally boot into it. I have to f12 to get to windows. Im sure thats a red flag somehow lol.

    [–] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    os-probe, the thing that suppose to help grub mkconfig auto-detect windows boot menu entry, is by default disabled in /etc/default/grub.

    You need to:

    • Make sure os-prober is installed
    • Uncomment GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false in /etc/default/grub
    • probably restart for good measure
    • Find out which disk partition holds your EFI system partition
    • mount that partition on /boot
    • run grub mkconfig and override /boot/grub/grub.cfg
    [–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (14 children)

    Oh neat, I have just gotten used to it and by extension means I rarely boot to windows which is a good thing in my eyes.

    Not entirely sure why I was getting downvoted though, maybe I finally gained a hater? Or was it the use of lol?

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    [–] Cabbage_Pout61@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    I see some comments trashing dual boot, I really don't understand why. I have really nice setup with Debian 12 and Windows 10. Boot pc, get to work on Linux, and other projects after. When I'm done and want to game a bit I switch to windows.

    I have no need to setup funky VMs to bypass games made strictly for windows, and also don't have performance limitations.

    Just use the right tool for the right job folks.

    [–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I see some comments trashing dual boot, I really don't understand why.

    Back when I dual booted, every Windows update was a dice roll whether and how it would decide to fuck up my dual boot setup.

    Sometimes it decides to "fix" grub. Sometimes it wanted to encrypt something new to protect me from all the theives that wander through my living room. Sometimes Windows just had an update that was 1000% sure that Windows was the default boot entry, and so doing something extremely sensitive and rebooting to finish without telling the user, should be fine.

    Windows under dual boot, for me, was like having a fragile semi-suicidal pet. I found myself doing constant research to rescue it from itself.

    Eventually I did let it die.

    So I'm not mad at it, exactly. I'm just over it.

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    [–] Statick@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago

    Every time I boot into windows it breaks grub and I have to arch-chroot with a live archiso USB to fix it...

    [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

    I remember those pre-SSD days! If I spin up a minimum specs VM, it’s kinda like that (which I did at least five times over the weekend). Nowadays you can load Windows pretty fast. Updates might take 10 minutes though!

    [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago

    You got Windows on a HDD or something? The longest part of booting my PC, no matter what OS I boot into, is the BIOS splash screen and energystar thingy.

    [–] Quatlicopatlix@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

    The worst is if you select the windows repair entry, that takes even longer...or a old entry that doesnt have a valid installation behind it...

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