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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 43 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Meme or whatever, but fuckwits that keep cats outdoors (and cat hoarders) are the main reason why my charitable donations to animal groups focus on spay/neuter programs rather than shelters. I know the animals in shelters need help too, but reducing the inflow of animals into the shelters helps them as well.

And reduces hazards to wildlife from cats, whether they be outdoor pets, strays, abandoned, or feral.

And reduces demand for meat-based cat foods.

It's the most efficient way to help that I can think of.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

my environmental science teacher spent an hour talking about what apex predators cats are and how terrible outdoor cats are….
they pretty much kill for fun, all day….
if you declaw your cat (which is evil) and put a bell on it, then the last thing the bird will hear is a bell ringing while being batted to death.
they just decimate the local wildlife.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

if you declaw your cat

declawing your cat is like cutting last segment of humans finger. please don't do that, it is a straight up torture, far worse than cutting ears, and should be illegal.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago

it should be illegal, that’s just an example of what people say as an excuse for why it’s okay for their cat to be outside

[–] _g_be@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Didn't seem like they were advocating for that, just using it as an example

[–] presoak@lazysoci.al 5 points 4 days ago

Yeah, it's pretty fucked up

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[–] Bonus@sh.itjust.works 80 points 5 days ago (12 children)

Anyone who keeps outdoor cats in coyote territory is just an asshole. Can confirm. Do live in coyote territory.

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 50 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

People who have outdoor cats are facilitating the extinction of birds. I'm completely serious. Domestic cats kill billions of birds annually.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Yeah. The coyotes are just doing course correction for nature.

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[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Anyone who keeps outdoor cats is just an asshole.

FTFY

[–] Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 5 days ago (3 children)

We had farm cats in coyote territory without issue. We never lost one to coyotes to my knowledge. You just need to ensure that you also have coyote deterants like an assault donkey or a llama. Having a big guard dog also helps. Basically, anything that would protect your livestock will also protect the cats. If there are enough threats to coyotes in the area then the coyotes will steer clear.

In our case it probably also helped that mama farm cat was a monsterous maine coon who I once saw literally beat the shit out of a full grown rotweiler that got too close to her kittens. It wouldn't surprise me if she had been hunting coyotes for sport.

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You can't "can confirm" yourself! What is this lawlessness??

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 78 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (74 children)

"Out~~si~~door cats" shouldn't be a thing, imo.

Edit: didn't realize I totally messed up the word, "outdoor".

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[–] licheas@sh.itjust.works 60 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (17 children)

saying so in front of the daughter is low key savage.

But it always boggles my mind when adults are shocked and horrified that predators ...predate. Especially non-vegans.

Like Bro. Hommie needs to eat, and they can't live off beans. (well, maybe coyotes can.)

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm glad I wasn't Disney'd in childhood. Better to know reality, than be deluded, made fragile and crippled by reality. Face the horror. Stop lying to children. Children become adults.

[–] licheas@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There’s a time and a place and a manner for that, and I rather suspect you think perpetuating trauma makes you cool.

It doesn’t. It makes you an asshole.

Also Disney was the one tossing lemmings off a cliff for a documentary. so… not the best way to express that thought.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago

I rather suspect you think perpetuating trauma makes you cool.

o_O ... Where did you pick up that suspicion from???

Strikingly the wrong end of the stick grabbed there. Or, even, a completely other stick.

Also Disney was the one tossing lemmings off a cliff for a documentary. so… not the best way to express that thought.

Completely still corroborates what I was saying. It seems you did not get what I was saying, at all.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 28 points 5 days ago (17 children)

Grow up on a farm and you really have no delusions about how the world works. Although I did think teachers lived at the school so I was unclear with how Mrs Thatcher got pregnant.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

how Mrs Thatcher got pregnant

Presumably, alcohol involved.

Although, that too likely still naive.

... The perversions in the crooked cabal... they're into a lot of really really vile stuff.

[Edit: Oh... or are you talking about a different Mrs Thatcher than Thatcher pulling the strings... or grabbing buns or babies or something.  Scary ugly lady, with scary gesticulation.?]

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Presumably, alcohol involved.

Oh we love you Mrs Thatcher, like your old man likes a brew;

such a lad your husband Denis when he's had a drink or two.

Sure he'll take a pint of Murphy's and a glass of Irish Mist

and because he sleeps with you each night, no wonder he's always pissed.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 46 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Shit like this is why it's so hard for you to adopt an animal btw. Shelters have no idea if you're a coyote feeder

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Parents be like: "Oops, my child just died, good thing I made a few backups"

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Go back far enough and yes, this is exactly how people thought.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 17 points 5 days ago (3 children)

"And then people accuse me of being socially challenging!"

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[–] Someone8765210932@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, a classic. Haven't seen this one in a while.

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