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Proxmox VE is a complete, open-source server management platform for enterprise virtualization. It tightly integrates the KVM hypervisor and Linux Containers (LXC), software-defined storage and networking functionality, on a single platform. With the integrated web-based user interface you can manage VMs and containers, high availability for clusters, or the integrated disaster recovery tools with ease.

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

single pane of glass

God, I want to hit someone so hard right now...

[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

for centralized, enterprise-wide visibility and continual business transformation to the agile hyperscale agentic industry of ... um ... i lost track.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Is this worth setting up in a homelab context? I have two VE nodes and one Backup server and I kind of want to play around with this but I feel like it'll be way overkill lol

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

One if the things I appreciated about proxmox is that each instance in a cluster provides an interface for all members of the cluster. Thus i would say this concept makes zero sense for a few systems in one place.

Contrast with VMware where you got stuck with vcenter if you had more than a single hypervisor.

[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

vCenter itself wasn't really useful until version 4.x or so. It got a lot more modern at 5.5, the dawn of the recognizable vCenter, but up to that point people considered vCenter optional.

In much the same fashion, this PDM is just a bolt-on addition right now, nearly useless.
But its gonna become a locus for service management, and it will eventually be an integral piece of your cluster.

I would like to see PDM bring new DR replication capabilities to us. Sorely needed.

[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Nah. Spin it up. It was a buggy POS when I last tried it, so don't expect too much. But what are ya doing homelab for? Mostly people want to learn and play. You should play with this toy.

[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"stable"
This PDM software is not going to be stable. Its a brand new 1.0 product from a company that moves fast and breaks shit. I doubt they went a single day without releasing patches for this thing.

I have a collection of the PDM alpha releases. That was some of the raw-est most-uncooked spaghetti I've ever seen served up by a software company. There is no way they got this thing across the finish line. It's gonna have issues.

That said, this vcenter-like hyper-hypervisor console showed some promise. It provided one brand new capability, hot vmotion between clusters. While the data displayed about clusters and hosts had a janky feel, it was some sort of common interface.
A poor start, but a start nonetheless.

I dunno. It wasn't useful enough for me. I'll look at it again later. I'm slowly working PVE 9 and PBS 4 into my environment, now that they've aged to a .1 rev, and that's got me plenty busy.


EDIT: Should you decide to have a Proxmox Datacenter Manager adventure, you're really going to want to view the stickied threads at their dedicated forum.
https://forum.proxmox.com/forums/datacenter-manager-installation-and-configuration.28/

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Source?

Claiming that PDM is a buggy mess because you had bad experiences with a alpha release is a bold statement.

I haven't tested it but according to the Proxmox team they have put it though a bunch of testing. There will always be bugs but in general when Proxmox calls something stable it is stable.

[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 0 points 2 weeks ago

Fire it up.