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[–] irelephant@programming.dev 54 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

To save you a click, countries supporting the implementation: Spain, Romania, Portugal, Malta Lithuania, Hungary, Ireland, France, Denmark, Croatia, Cyprus, and Bulgaria.

Countries undecided: Belgium, Greece, Italy, Latvia, Slovakia, and Sweden.

Countries against: Slovenia, the Netherlands, Poland, Luxembourg, Germany, Estonia, Finland, the Czech Republic, and Austria

[–] Slayer@infosec.pub 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

How the fuck is Germany in favor when all representatives oppose / are unknown?

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I’m waiting for the notes on that meeting and how it affects Belgium’s position because from what I see here our MPs have approved only a temporary regime until April ‘26 with limitations until and actual set of rules is voted.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

🙇‍♀️
Time to learn 4 languages😭

[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok,let's start scanning politicians and priests devices

[–] sip@programming.dev 12 points 2 weeks ago

they are explicitly excluded, right?

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is fucked.

I get the arguments about csam, but get a fucking warrant and do proper police work.

The carve out for politicians is the indicator that this is not about CSAM.

Just look at Epstein, he was buddies with a ton of politicians and this law would have protected all of them.

And how long until this gets expanded. “Oh, we have to catch football piracy”. “Now we have to scan to catch criminals and terrorists”. And soon it’s whatever politicians think threatens them. It’s too much power for anyone to have, even with a noble cause taped to the front.

I’m beyond disappointed in the list of countries supporting this.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe -1 points 2 weeks ago

Not from you…

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Europe sliding towards authoritarianism, while the far-right surge in the individual countries is still to manifest itself properly in the EU parliament. I cannot see this going well.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

If the USA has taught us anything, it's that we can always count on Liberals and Conservatives to forget all their differences and display radical bipartisanship in expanding the surveillance state and building big brother for fascism.

[–] Arkthos@pawb.social 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuuck this shit and my piece of shit country for supporting this idiocy.

All the more reason to use a VPN. We'll see what measures various apps will end up implementing.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

I 🙏 u teach’m physical lessons they won't forget.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I thought this had been blocked like, just a few weeks ago?

[–] toebert@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Luckily they can just keep proposing it nonstop until everyone is burnt out from constantly fighting it while also working a day job.

When you base coordination on violent enforcement, tyranny is inevitable. You have a mechanism for crushing opposition aglnd silencing the population that is not just built in but essential, even definitional, to the functioning of the thing.

Even aside from all the absolute fucking pandoras box of moral hazards and perverse incentives this creates, just running it long enough will eventually cause this shit to accrue, like a windows install.

States are not a good solution.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The people need to fight it every time it pops up. It only needs a passing vote one time.

Now it's too late.

Well, your politicians have names and addresses. Ask them to fix this.

While they're sleeping.

[–] ueiqkkwhuwjw@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think this is a misleading article and headline.

My understanding is that the proposal has now been officially approved and suggested by the EU Council (one of the bodies that can ask the EU Commission to present/draft a law)

It now goes on to the EU Commission who will analyze the proposal and potentially draft a law. However, AFAIK they can also stop the proposal at this stage.

If the EU Commission decides to draft a law and it then needs to be approved by the EU Parliament and EU Council (again). Only at this point does it become law.

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Seeing as how we're the dickheads who suggested it, yes.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ylva Johansson is a Swedish politician.

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All right, fair. Allow me to amend that to 'championed it' then. We're still fucking dickheads all the same.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Aren’t we all, buddy? Aren’t we all. :(

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

American here. Looks around. Couldn't agree more.

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

I prefer their cousin, Scarlett

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 2 points 2 weeks ago