Pushback. As an American, it's offensively unconstitutional. As a Christian, it's one of the worst things that could happen to the Church. As a liberal, I oppose all forms of nationalism.
this post was submitted on 27 Nov 2025
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Liberalism is agnostic towards nationalism at worst. You probably want to use progressive there.
I do not.
Authoritarianism is an key component of Nationalism. Liberalism is opposed.
Also, and this part is just pedantry, but after all we are on the Internet: "agnostic" means not knowing, rather than not caring
Which is why it fits so well, since liberals don't know what the words they use mean.
You mean the sin of pride made manifest?
Don't forget idolatry! Worshipping the flag and the country instead of God.
Or blasphemy. "Thou shalt not take the Lords name in vain." isn't about cussing. It's about not using Gods Name to justify evil acts.
Fucking Nazis have no idea what Christ stood for
It just verifies religion as an agency of social control.
As with all agencies of social control, the more power it acquires, the more corruption emerges.
That nationalism is incompatible with Christianity.
Religion is like taking a shit, keep it to yourself
As belivers Christ makes it pretty clear we shouldn't be keeping it to ourselves. His last statement in the Gospel of Matthew is literally
Then Jesus approached and said to them, “All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.” Matthew 28:18-20
I consider myself Christian and my faith is important enough to me to search out and understand the Jewish perspective, since Jesus said he didn't come to abolish the law but fulfill it (Judaism does consider him a heretic not worth mentioning, but also teaches Merkavah mysticism, but that's a whole other topic I've spent the last few years researching; it's complicated).
That having been said, I turned away missionaries from my door without opening it by simply stating "no thank you," and repeating it when they pressed.
The best bait isn't going around trying to hook people (nor acting like you're bat guano insane in order to go out of your way to make a point that one already agrees with, if you can bother stepping out of the "notice me" spotlight long enough to listen). The best bait, imo, is to simply live in a manner that makes people actually ask. In all my multiple decades (yes, I'm considered a senior), that's only happened once, and the couple turned out to be a Muslim offshoot religion. I explored the religion until I hit a point I wouldn't compromise, and that couple and I remained friends until moving separated us, multiple years later. I respected their faith was for them and mine for me, and they reciprocated. It didn't stop us from fellowship or occasionally sharing, when asked.
From a man made book, us enlightened people want religion to be a thing of the past, where it belongs
I'm pretty sure you are in the wrong Lemmy Community mate
I am, but yall poke your nose where it doesnt belong too