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A survey published last week suggested 97% of respondents could not spot an AI-generated song. But there are some telltale signs - if you know where to look.

Here's a quick guide ...

  • No live performances or social media presence

  • 'A mashup of rock hits in a blender'

A song with a formulaic feel - sweet but without much substance or emotional weight - can be a sign of AI, says the musician and technology speaker, as well as vocals that feel breathless.

  • 'AI hasn't felt heartbreak yet'

"AI hasn't felt heartbreak yet... It knows patterns," he explains. "What makes music human is not just sound but the stories behind it."

  • Steps toward transparency

In January, the streaming platform Deezer launched an AI detection tool, followed this summer by a system which tags AI-generated music.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Because it's better than the shitty music record labels are spewing these days. It's pretty bad when computer generated music is better than some plastic pop tune "composed" by 12 "producers" who pieced together samples from 30 pieces of classic music recorded by legendary musicians, then stuck some pretty manikin in front to provide a voice to be digitally manipulated until it can be crammed into the mix.

[–] Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Last time I heard ai generated music an immediate tell for me was the vocals, for some reason they just sound a little bit off. Not off key, but similar to a "robot" voice filter maybe? Of course, just like AI generated images that tell will probably be "solved" soon

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 3 points 23 hours ago

I know somebody who likes using these GenAI tools for images and music now. It's too easy to recognize the style after a while, and it annoys me every time

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago

Is AI audio accurately able to recreate shitty auto tune that everyone uses?

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you can't even tell if it's ai and you enjoy it then I fail to see the problem.

[–] TBi@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

No issue if it’s labelled as AI. Since you should enjoy it regardless.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 5 points 23 hours ago

Fair point.

I don't think it's okay to present it as human made if it's not

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Simple, the problem is the erosion of human directed art. That is a much broader problem than if the music is good or not; it may be. But we want, many of us anyway, humans making and being recognized for making art. Empowering this expression is less likely if everybody begins consuming only machine made works.

[–] AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works -3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The machines arent making art in a vacuum they take human input and thus are still human directed art. Do you realize how many "artists" use ghost writers? All ai does is allow those ghost writers to now produce their music without needing some PR tool from a big label to pretend to write the music and sell it. All AI art really does is break the vail that any of the art for the past few decades was actually art and not just pr and marketing from big corporations. Now instead of people getting mad at the industries that caused all that enshitification they are taking it out on people who are using tools to express themselves in ways they may not have had raw the musical or artistic skills to do so in the past. Now that doesnt solve the energy consumption issues that arise with AI which is a big issue but use of AI itself is not whats eroding the human spirit in art, that was done by corporations turning art into another commodity to exploit. With the way capitalism is that erosion of human spirit has and will continue to happen with or without AI.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

There is probably some truth to that, but I don’t think they’re mutually exclusive. I think both can be erosive to human expression at the same time.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe people with be more protective of their art from here on out and stop trying to make a mill off of clout.

We gave the tech companies or data. We are reaping the consequences.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do you know why I listen to real artists? Because there is a story behind it, someone had an inspiration and wrote a fucking good album. AI has no story to tell, didn't broke up with someone to write a song, and certainly won't make star gaze the live concert I went to.

[–] AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes the story written by ghost writers so the marketable front "artist" for the label can sell brand deals and ads when that "artist" goes on tour and does interviews. People using AI can still write their own lyrics and make music based on the same inspirations you say makes real music. If anything this frees the ghost writers who might not have a great voice or ability to play instruments well but has phenomenon lyricism can plan a good musical set to make their own albums and be free from the oppressive labels.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 1 points 17 hours ago

Speaking of the popularly artists like Taylor Swift? I totally understand, yet, there are artists that really create music. Still, AI, can't do a live.

[–] III@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And here I was only listening to music because the of the joy I get from some producer getting more and more percentage of the profits. Maybe I should rethink my reasoning...

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You may unfortunately have a terminal case of retail investor brain

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 20 hours ago

Shhh, quiet! Otherwise they might get kidnapped by trump's goons and put on an executive seat!

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)
  • dumbass nonsensical lyrics
  • bland basic bitch tone
  • superfluous background music
  • digital voice that sounds like it's been through a syth incorrectly
[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

The last one is the most obvious one. But they're getting better at concealing it.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You just described 64% of all human-made music.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

even shit music takes effort and talent.

AI is literally the theft of talent and the absence of effort.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

even shit music takes effort and talent.

Hm, not really unless you consider effort anything that's non-zero.

I just shat my pants.

I just shat my pants.

Shit got so itchy,

I just shat my pants.

There you go. It took me 10 seconds of effort to come up with that masterpiece. Where's my Grammy?

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

literally the theft of talent and the absence of effort.

You've just described 100% of the record labels.

[–] thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I will admit, I can maybe tell if a video is AI and can listen when something is AI (the way it speaks and the formulaic feel are dead giveaways for me), but often cannot tell if written word is AI. I am not looking forward to its technological improvements… 🫠

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

I once read an article that answered my question as "yes" in the first paragraph, then as a "no" in the following paragraph. And I was mad for having fallen for AI-made bullshit.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

My first experience with AI music was when I was on my usual 90s hip-hop/rap vibe and got recommended some channels with alleged underground hits. There definitely were a couple channels that put out legit mixes that did have a lot of music and artists I didn't know prior, but one of the mixes was weird. I could tell immediately, less than a minute in, mainly because of the vocals that sounded super generic as well kind of robotic in addition to a very out of place beat that doesn't sound at all like it'd belong in the 90s/2000s era of rap music. Had it not been for the vocals in tandem with the mismatched beat (obviously created by someone who doesn't know jack about the music genre and the ear it's supposed to represent), I might not have spotted the AI involved.

The scary and sad part is that I doubt YouTube will do anything about it despite reports and that there are so many people that either don't care or don't know/realise. Only saw like one or two other comments calling out that mix having been made with AI

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