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To ensure games run well on Linux either via Native Linux builds or Windows games with Proton, part of the magic is in the Steam Linux Runtime. A new version of it, the Steam Linux Runtime 4.0 was recently put up with some pretty big changes.

What's the point of it? It ensures Steam and games run through Steam on Linux work properly across all the many different Linux distributions. Another secret Valve sauce for Linux. Well, not secret at all but you get my meaning I'm sure.

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[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 points 39 minutes ago

please god let the client have a 64 bit wayland edition coming

[–] flemtone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Proton-GE has had the Wow64 feature for a while now that can play older 32-bit titles under 64-bit, so it shouldn't be long before a truly 64-bit steam experience is available.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

Any news about an aarch64 version?

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 64 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

That's a good sign, that Valve is moving at least the runtimes to 64bit only. Maybe that means the client is under similar scrutiny internally. Recently when Fedora was discussing dropping more 32bit libraries Steam came up as a big issue.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 13 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah, 32bit is why I removed Steam from my Debian desktop daily driver again. I got conflicting 32bit and 64bit versions of some libraries that broke my system. I'm going to try a gaming focussed distro like Bazzite next time.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Your better off using cachy if you want a gaming focused distro that doesn't break. Unless you use mostly flatpaks. Then bazzite is good

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I just run Steam as a flatpak. Works fine.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 2 hours ago

It doesn't work fine out of the box. I tried it on Opensuse MicroOS a year and a bit ago and had to search 3-5 pretty undocumented solutions to big problems before being able to play the same games that non-flatpak could.

Out of the box, proton didn't work at all.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure why the downvotes. Flatpak is a great thing.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 12 hours ago

Unless you muck around in bottles a lot of things break.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 7 points 13 hours ago

Give Steam Flatpak a try on Debian instead.

[–] GottaHaveFaith@fedia.io 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Didn't they already announce they're going to drop 32 bit?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

If you're talking about Fedora, no. One of the maintainers just proposed it and the media/commenters in the community went crazy without knowing the facts.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

For windows at least, but I assume they'd do it across the board at once

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

Funny this shows up when all of a sudden Steam won't launch anymore on my Arch install. It's installed via flatpak.

How do I even check which version of the Steam runtime I am running? The flatpak version of Steam is just 1.0.something.other.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 32 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

The runtime is not Steam itself. That's more or less independent from the runtime. The runtimes are a collection of libraries that developers can develop against without having to include them themselves.

Kind of similar to the Visual C++ Runtime on Windows.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I know what a runtime is, but I'd like to check which version of it I'm running. 🙂 Wouldn't be very difficult but I'm this instance I don't know how.

[–] Alxe@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The runtime is for launching games, not Steam itself. You can check the runtime selection in Compatibility tab of Steam and of each game. If your Steam Flatpak install doesn't work, the issue is likely somewhere else.

I'd suggest trying to launch the flatpak from the terminal and seeing if there's any strange logging.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The runtime is for launching games, not Steam itself. You can check the runtime selection in Compatibility tab of Steam and of each game. If your Steam Flatpak install doesn't work, the issue is likely somewhere else.

Hold up, are you talking about the compatibility layer, "Proton"? I'm not sure that's what we're talking about here. Proton is up to version 9 and 10, not 4.0.

[–] technohacker@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You can select Steam Runtime Versions in the Compatibility tab too, separate from Proton versions

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 32 seconds ago

Oh okay, I guess that's in the main Steam settings, not per game as the other person suggested.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I'd suggest trying to launch the flatpak from the terminal and seeing if there's any strange logging.

Already did that but I couldn't see anything that I could recognize as abnormal. The "Connecting" window shows up, actually. But it just stops loading for a second and then it just says "Reaping pid" in the console and it closes the process.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

So you can use those to develop on a platform and be sure that it work on the other too? Is this runtime steam-indipendent?

[–] derek@infosec.pub 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 points 5 hours ago

Oh that's cool, thank your for the link too

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

idk about that, but it's called the Steam Runtime because it's the library files for running Steam. so I'm not sure what context you would use it in that didn't include Steam, since it's used for everything Steam does from connecting you to your friends in multiplayer games, to notifying Steam users that it's their turn in asynchronous games.

if the game wasn't run from Steam, it probably wouldn't need or want to use the Steam Runtime.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

No, it's for running games on Linux. Steam will probably use the libs as well for its own functionality. But the main use is for game developers to target specific libraries so that they are independent of the user's distribution.

And they can indeed be used outside of Steam as well. I sometimes use it to link in specific libraries for other games. @Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 points 5 hours ago
[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 4 points 13 hours ago

I stand corrected then

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 9 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

the flatpak version is unsupported by Valve for a reason. there's been a ton of problems over the lifespan of the flatpak. it's usually highly recommended everywhere not to use that version.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

is unsupported by Valve

You say that as if the versions packaged by your distro are supported.

As it stands, on Linux, Steam is only supported by Valve on SteamOS and LTS releases of Ubuntu.

[–] who@feddit.org 3 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I've been using Steam in a flatpak for a couple years now, I think. What ton of problems are you referring to?

[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago

I don't have a reference, but I've been seeing random individuals asking for help and finally saying they fixed their issue by switching away from flatpak, so... You, I guess? Your.problem might be a perfect example of one of the many problems that keep popping up, that seem to only happen on the flatpak version.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 3 points 13 hours ago

too many small things over the years to go over them all in one post. some still relevant, some not. drivers, for one. no game mode, if I remember correctly. you might end up having issues with controllers, and VR is out of the question on the flatpak. some people have reported issues with permissions.

it's enough of a troublemaker that Bazzite blacklisted the flatpak, I believe, and it can't be installed normally.

[–] jokre33@pawb.social 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

For me personally (Fedora 43 KDE) about 80% of unity games that don't have a native build refused to run at all. No problems at all since I swapped to a non-flatpak Steam install.

OTOH I'm having trouble with pretty much all flatpak apps in some way or another... might just be my system that's being weird.

[–] zewm@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Install warehouse. It gives you all the details of which runtime is in a Flatpak and even lets you change the version.

[–] n4sdaq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 16 hours ago

I did not know about Warehouse. Thank you.

[–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 3 points 15 hours ago

i usually avoid flatpaks, especially with steam. but every now and then my non-flatpak steam borks too and won't launch on mint. 9 times out of 10 simple reboot helps, but sometimes it requires a reinstall...

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago

How do I even check which version of the Steam runtime I am running? The flatpak version of Steam is just 1.0.something.other.

#justFlatpakThings

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

You're not alone. I had the same thing on two machines yesterday. (Not flatpack)

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

yeah, many people had that problem. it happened around the same time the Arc Raiders servers went offline. a buddy of mine couldn't launch Steam, and when he did, it wouldn't load his friends list. my theory is that the 350,000 people who were all reloading Steam and Arc Raiders over and over DDoSed the two services.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Been happening though. Maybe it's a coincidence or it's happening again or something. Interesting theory though.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

A decent error message would have been useful.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know if there's an existing error message for "please stop reloading Steam all at once, the game will come back online just give them time".

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 10 hours ago

"unable to contact server" would do. It tells me it's not a problem on my end.

[–] Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you use flatpack for stuff natively available on pacman? Search no further, flatpack is a good way to introduce problems where there are none

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Steam#Flatpak

🤷‍♂️ Seemed like a good way to install it. I had used the native package before but I think I tried flatpak because of some issue or another with the native version.

It's been working great for years now so, no issues until now.

I usually install big corporate software with flatpak if I can help it, to keep them as isolated as possible. Slack, Discord, Steam, etc. Stuff like that. 👍