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As per FSF only these linux distributions are 100% free:

Dragora
Dyne
Guix
Hyperbola
Parabola
PureOS
Trisquel
Ututo
libreCMC
ProteanOS

Do you agree or not?

I see a lot of people that want to switch from windows to a linux distro or a open os. But from what i see they tend to migrate to another black boxed/closed os.

What is a trully free os that doesnt included any closed code/binary blobs/closed drivers etc.

Just 100% free open code, no traps.

What are the options and what should one go with if they want fully free os that rejects any closed code?

OQB @pie@piefed.social

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[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 20 hours ago

I think Debian offers a very good compromise. The primary repos follow the Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG).

Then they have a separate "non-free" repos for "non-DFSG-compliant packages that are considered important enough to make available anyway". If you want to be a hardline free software stalwart, you can do that, and Debian supports you. If you are comfortable making a few compromises for the sake of usability, like fonts and device drivers, Debian supports you on that as well.

[–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I agree with PrivacyGuides on why to avoid Libre Kernels

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/os/linux-overview/#choosing-your-distribution

Linux-libre kernel and “Libre” distributions

We recommend against using the Linux-libre kernel, since it removes security mitigations and suppresses kernel warnings about vulnerable microcode.

AND

Proprietary Firmware (Microcode Updates)

Some Linux distributions (such as Linux-libre-based or DIY distros) don’t come with the proprietary microcode updates which patch critical security vulnerabilities. Some notable examples of these vulnerabilities include Spectre, Meltdown, SSB, Foreshadow, MDS, SWAPGS, and other hardware vulnerabilities.

We highly recommend that you install microcode updates, as they contain important security patches for the CPU which can not be fully mitigated in software alone. Fedora and openSUSE both apply microcode updates by default.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's why they have miniscule user bases. Ain't nobody gaming on nouveau, bruh

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago

i still wouldn't do it but gsp firmware and nvk makes it sorta feasible to game on nouveau

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 10 points 23 hours ago

Didn't see the original analysis that is used to make that claim, so I can only argue about more general problems, specifically to what scopes one can keep using only software he/she can audity and is free to use. For example, work may require tunelling tools or email/messaging programs which you have no control over. Also the majority of games have at least closed source elements. You also can't guarantee the sites you access are FOSS or the hardware you have available makes its blueprints or firmwares available and auditable. Also if your setup grows, e.g. using a game controller, USB stick, another screen, etc., drivers needed and/or installed could be a "black box" too as you say.

Such an end is still utopic, too far to reach, so my suggestion would be trimming what can be replaced or ignored while rising awareness (and possible solutions¹) to specific problem, and through that step by step move closer to such a fully FOSS objective.

¹pointing problems without proposing solutions, that I can observe, is a great way to make the listener lose his/her will to tackle a given problem

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 4 points 20 hours ago

Source?

The fact that Debian is not on your list makes me doubt that it's accurate or complete and while I've been using Linux as my primary desktop for over 25 years, I've never heard of any of those distributions listed.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I don't really agree with the firmware baked in/firmware loaded at runtime distinction the fsf makes, so I don't really see the point of not using proprietary firmware wifi cards (like the Intel series), as awesome as ath9k can be

depending on how you manage non-free js these distros are feasible for daily driving though