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Microsoft's AI CEO, Mustafa Suleyman, has shared his opinion after recent pushback from users online that are becoming frustrated with Copilot and AI on Windows. In a post on X, Suleyman says he's mind blown by the fact that people are unimpressed with the ability to talk fluently with an AI computer.

His post comes after Windows president Pavan Davuluri was recently met with major backlash from users online for posting about Windows evolving into an agentic OS. His post was so negatively received that he was forced to turn off replies, though Davuluri did later respond to reassure customers that the company was aware of the feedback.

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[–] violentfart@lemmy.world 65 points 6 hours ago
[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 45 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

AI bros are beyond delusional.

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[–] deacon@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Sounds like a you problem bucko.

[–] Saltarello@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago

I couldnt give a flying fuck what this clown thinks. My brand new Beelink EQ14 came with Win11. Its now running Ubuntu server

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 19 points 5 hours ago

"I have a radical business strategy: Fuck our customers, and fuck what they want. It's going to be great. They'll love it. Or else."

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago

20 years ago I would have been excited: when Microsoft made Clippy to try and help people. Now we know you created this to harvest data.

I'm mind-blown that people feel no shame when data harvesting from computer illiterates, or programmers who write anti-features (like forced online accounts for a local OS).

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 166 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Never seen someone with a mind so easily blown.

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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 136 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

Microsoft is truly the king of putting out a product that no one wanted or asked for, then wondering why no one wants it. I'm sure they will soon begin the second phase of any Microsoft product: spending a small country's GDP marketing it to try to get people to use it, despite it being prominently displayed on approximately 5 billion operating systems already.

A tried and true strategy to piss through more money than god to justify spending more money than god building the thing that no one wants. Looking at you, IE and edge.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 14 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

spending a small country’s GDP marketing

Not to mention the energy demand of a similar small country

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You know what I want MS to do? Remove all the extra crap and just be a simple OS. The desktop should use 500MB or so of memory, boot should be a few seconds, and launching programs should be a few seconds. Don't do any weird caching nonsense, I don't need tens of GBs of OS nonsense, just give me a simple OS.

I have that w/ Linux. The only value Windows provides is app compatibility. Stop trying to be anything more than that.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Man, can you imagine how good a bare bones version of win 10 would be? Drop all the useless software and telemetry services, only run the 3 or 4 background services that people use, and use flat window decorations like win 8. Essentially a modernized windows XP. Would be rad.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There's multiple projects out there for it. Windows 10 Ameliorated is/was an open source project of PowerShell scripts you run against the installation media (and I think afer install, it's been a while) to get LTSC Windows 10 stripped down as much as possible.

It's what I run in a VM for my work's VPN connection software (and then for the RDP session too). Keeps an extra level of separation from my personal stuff.

I could probably get things working in a Linux VM, but it's not worth the trouble for me.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 hours ago

Yes, very true. It would be so nice to be able to get that as an OOBE behavior rather than a hacked together set of registry hacks and patched executables. Not denigrating the devs of these projects, they do an amazing job out engineering Microsoft's attempts to stop them. It's just absurd that the primary/only option for the operating system of a set of devices as ubiquitous as personal computers is such advertisment riddled shit with no ability to even buy out of it.

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 7 hours ago (6 children)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 27 points 7 hours ago

What about that 365 bullshit?

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[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 45 points 7 hours ago

As has been said elsewhere about everything Microsoft is pulling:

If your LLM was worth using you wouldn't need to force anyone to use it.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 92 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Well my guy have you actually used and I mean really sat down and used your burning pile of slop for an excuse of an OS? I bet you haven‘t because you don‘t have to. Your assistants have to deal with that and they get paid to not complain about it. Meanwhile you get paid to waste oxygen and have lost touch with reality to the point you‘re no longer able to contribute to society in your current position. How sad.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 hours ago

I think part of the problem is they all use Win 11 Enterprise, which actually isn’t that crappy because all of the bloat can be configured and disabled and most likely their IT department has done that.

They should be forced to use Win 11 Home for a while to see how everyone else is viewing things.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 36 points 7 hours ago

Hey don't make fun of him too much, he might have to buy another yacht to make himself feel better.

[–] AZX3RIC@lemmy.world 24 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Holy fuck. I have to paste shit from reports into Outlook daily and that stupid fucking menu that pops up asking about if I want the formatting to match, that you can't get rid of, drives me crazy.

And! And! You want a sync button? It's not just hanging out anymore, you have to find it. Don't like more clicks? That's ok, use the F key. But not F5 like is standard on browsers! Enjoy pressing F9.

First world problems but they're mine!

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I have to paste shit from reports into Outlook daily and that stupid fucking menu that pops up asking about if I want the formatting to match, that you can't get rid of, drives me crazy.

Every other piece of software: ctrl+shift+v pastes without formatting.

Microsoft software: ctrl+shift+v does nothing, if you want to paste without formatting you have to use our menus (for some reason).

And on the subject, apparently in a Google document you can not right click to paste without having some add-on installed. Ctrl+v works fine, the context menu shows you paste as an option, but if you try to actually paste through the context menu you get an error saying you need to install an add-on. What the actual fuck?

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 29 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'll bet I can make your left eye twitch.

Are you ready?

A "large" amount of information.

Bitch, my computer has 128 gigabytes of RAM. It's a tiny god. The fact that I have as many as 100 cells copied to the clipboard (which is the threshold that triggers this stupid message, if you've ever wondered) is not even a rounding error. I'm sure this was marginally important in 1982 or whenever this was first coded into Excel, but today my computer could lose an entire megabyte of memory or maybe even ten down between the couch cushions and neither of us would notice.

There is still no setting to disable this dumbshit message.

[–] duckCityComplex@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago

OMG yes... I wrote a macro that copies thousands of rows and then closes a file and I had to add a step to copy just one cell before closing to work around this stupid message.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 66 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Lay off the coke man, talking to a computer isnt impressive when the average persons hydro bill goes up each month to support your bullshit

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 26 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If he thinks the reaction was people not being impressed then it shows that CEOs are psychopaths who can’t relate to normal people.

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[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

"Ok, I get it. You guys weren't impressed. That's on us and on me.... so to make it up to you guys I'm bringing out the big guns... Allow me to introduce our most smartest AI yet. It's called "CO-PILE-OF-SHIT-CUM-STAIN-ON-MY-BRIEFS."

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I don't like your LLM because A) It's a piece of junk and I cannot trust it's answers, and B) It's designed and built by an organization focused solely on gathering every bit of data about me that it's possible to gather and use that information to squeeze every nickle out of me you can.

I honestly cannot think of a single reason why I, or anyone else, would want this crud built into anything other than toys, and even then I doubt it would end well.

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 26 points 7 hours ago

"Why don't people like our user surveillance systems? they're so impressively good at invading your privacy!"

[–] rudyharrelson@lemmy.radio 44 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I dunno if I'd say I'm "unimpressed" with AI. I certainly find the technology itself fascinating. I worked with machine learning for years before consumer generative AI became mainstream and it's profoundly impressive what decades of research and development have yielded. I genuinely do admire the painstaking work that underappreciated computer scientists have put in to make such things possible.

That said, "AI" is the new "blockchain" insofar as virtually every company on the S&P 500 has decided this is the new be-all-end-all feature that must be integrated into every aspect of every project. I don't need AI to be part of my OS. I will open a new tab in my web browser if I decide I have a task for it. Granted, I am not a representative sample of a typical computer user (I use GNU/Linux btw).

To say nothing of the unethical manner in which these models are trained, using works produced by actual writers, artists, programmers, etc. Obviously profiting from their works while offering zero compensation (and actively taking work away from them by offering AI as an alternative to their craft).

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 31 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

It's impressive, just not particularly useful, and certainly not something most people consider a priority.

Windows still takes forever to delete files, has a search indexer that makes laptops too hot to touch, steals focus while you're typing in a password, takes much longer than Linux to open a web browser, turns apps white and "Not responding" for no apparent reason, has an ugly and slow Start menu that doesn't foreground the things you want, pops up needless crap like stock tickers and news stories while you're trying to get on with other things, sneakily turns on settings you deliberately turned off, and hassles you continually to agree to things you already said no to. And it spies on you.

Microsoft, if you're looking to please users, those are all higher priorities for real users than any AI. But you're not looking to please users, are you? Because Windows is for Microsoft, not for users.

[–] rudyharrelson@lemmy.radio 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

It’s impressive, just not particularly useful,

I will have to disagree with this. I have found LLMs to be remarkably useful in a variety of circumstances because they are pretty good at regurgitating API documentation and man pages in a relatively small context (effectively making them a very efficient google search).

For example, last week I accidentally deleted a partition from a USB drive. I asked an LLM how I might recover my data using GNU/Linux tools and it pointed me in the direction of ddrescue (and subsequently, gddrescue) and showed me how I could use the recovered disk image to recover my lost files.

I was already aware of 'dd' as a tool for disk management, but was wholly ignorant of ddrescue or gddrescue because I haven't had a data recovery use case in over 15 years. It was a fairly simple affair, and it was much easier than asking StackOverflow.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

I'd be impressed if they stopped basing everything they build on other people's tech.

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 45 points 8 hours ago

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[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 28 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't understand the company's customers at all, sounds like maybe he's not cut out to be CEO. Also, yeah, I'm not impressed by your agentic BS that your own company is already warning may install malware.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago

His customers are corporations. The public are just the rubes providing the gristle for AI

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