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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 96 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If they're masked and won't show a badge, they're kidnappers and anything you do is self defense.

[–] SpankyDoodle@eviltoast.org 3 points 1 day ago

That’s exactly how I see it. Especially when there are reports of people being fakes. That’s scary shit and I refuse to be a victim. You bet I’m defending myself against some MAGA fascists that come for me or my family pretending to be the law. The masked ones know this shit ain’t right and only allowed because Trump is president, otherwise they wouldn’t be masked. Simple.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sadly our "Supreme Court" has already ruled say law enforcement has no duty to identify themselves nor are they responsible for anyone's safety other than their own.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

12 jury members may be easier to convince than 6 conservative hacks that you feared for your life from armed, masked men who wouldn't identify themselves.

It seems like we're getting closer and closer to finding out.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

No they haven't, what's your case law for this claim anyway?

[–] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just let the KKK keep their hoods on.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd prefer to toss the klan in the clink

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

That's too kind.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What good reason do they have to be hiding their identity?

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Devil's advocate cartels are cartels. If you're messing up cartel business by arresting and deporting their members that makes you a target of retaliation.

Ofc that would require them to actually be dealing with the cartel and not just whatever (mostly brown) people who aren't armed and violent.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So in that case, not devils advocate, more so Nazi apologist?

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Thats a low hanging obvious retort about removing masks. It isn't reality because they're going after others but you have to consider it when making a law to counter them, it is part of what they say they're doing. So crafting a law which will easily run into that wall means it will ultimately be reduced to inefficacy/removed. Delaying bad stuff is goof but something to actually stop it needs to be different because a delay is not infinite.

So it must have some teeth if they're having to sue about it.

[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

Don't paste something something website something

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