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For my birthday, my spouse got me a nicer newer expensive version of a thing I already have. The one I have is older and dented but works just fine. I use it weekly. I never complain about it. I've never asked for a newer one. The one I have was given to me by my mother in law, whom I adore. It's sentimental.

I don't like new things. When they got me a 3d printer, it was the cheapest one and it was a kit and I had to build myself. I loved it. It's perfect for me. I regularly buy things used or get things from Buy Nothing groups. I much prefer to repair old things in many ways. My car has over 100k miles. The one before did too. I don't like new things.

We got into a huge argument because I want to return it. They are so upset with me that they left the house to calm down. Why am I the bad person? Why are they mad at me? I have a very clear tendency for old broken used things. Why am I obligated to like this new thing?

We literally established a rule early in our marriage. I'm not allowed to gift nerdy t shirts. They don't like them. I love them. I thought they would like them but they do not. So they asked me to stop. This feels the same. I do not like new things. Why am I the bad guy for wanting to return the newer version of the thing I already have?

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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@piefed.world 88 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not about the item whatever it is, it's about your reaction to it. This was something your spouse got you to show you that they love you; they bought something they thought you would want and need because they see you using this item all the time. It doesn't matter that they know you like using old things - for them the thing they got you is an expression of their love for you, and your reaction (lets return it, I don't want it) is like rejecting their love and is insulting.

I don't know how you said it to your spouse but the way you've described it here your reaction sounds like it was entirely factual and emotionless. It may not be what you're saying but how you said it that is the issue. Did you acknowledge how kind and thoughtful the gift was? Did you acknowledge what it means to get a nice gift from your spouse before saying that actually it's not something you'd use?

Instead of seeing it as a tit-for-tat exchange and the same as you gifting t-shirts, you need to understand that this was a personal gift from your spouse. You also need to acknowledge you're difficult to get gifts for because you like old things. You're not the bad guy for wanting to return the item, you're likely the bad guy for how you've gone about it and hurting your spouses feelings in the process. It may be that you're not an emotional person or have difficulty reading other people including your spouse - that's fine but you may need to acknowledge that you've hurt their feelings even if you didn't realise or mean to, and apologise - that may help a lot. It would also be helpful to tell them how your mother-in-laws gift has sentimental value and you didn't want to replace it. It may still be that you end up returning the item - but it's far less important that your relationship with your spouse.

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

To piggy back off this one, because I liked it, I'd like to zoom in on the spouse's reaction. Yes, it's an expression of their love. But also, if they're the sort of person that feels gift-giving is important, then they probably struggle with you being hard to buy for, because they want to get you something, because that's how they demonstrate love and attention.

So probably they've been watching you, and they noticed you spend a lot of time with this item, and they thought if they got you a new or fancy version it would make for a great gift. They finally found something they know you'll like! They'll watch you open it, you'll light up, and thank them for their keen insight, attention, and creativity. The perfect gift.

Obviously it didn't go down that way, but I think in addition to just "rejecting their love", I imagine there's also a huge factor that is just shock and disappointment. They had high expectations, they were excited for the reveal, and what they got was so much worse than what they expected they just don't even know what to do with this energy. They may even be a little embarrassed, both that they got you a bad gift, and at their misplaced excitement.

It's just an emotional letdown for them, I imagine. Now depending on their emotional maturity, they may just need to collect themselves, realize this whole thing was their fault for getting their hopes up even though you've told them you're not interested. They'll realize you have good reasons to want to keep the old one, and that they overlooked the importance of it. And if they don't have that level of mindfulness, then they may calm down, but they'll still blame you fully.

Anyway, just wanted to point out what I expect the source of the "outsized"-feeling reaction might be. Acute, sudden onset, disappointment.

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[–] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I understand why both of you might be upset but they will eventually understand why it wasn’t the best gift idea for you and all will be fine. Those things happen, don’t interpret so much into it. It might not be as obvious to them as you think it should be that you don’t like new things. Talk about it in a respectful way, they wanted to do something nice for you after all.

[–] pajam@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yep, this sort of situation is common, and definitely not any sort of crazy, relationship-ending drama (OP you shouldn't entertain any of the classic reddit-esque "Delete facebook, hit the gym, get a lawyer" type of "impending divorce" comments). However, it could definitely benefit from them sitting down together and having clear purposeful communication all about this issue, each of their feelings, their expectations vs reality, etc. So everyone can get on the same page, understand that neither of them intended to hurt the other, and neither of them necessarily "did something wrong," etc. In most of these relationship arguments, there is no "you are wrong, I am right" or "you are the one that did something wrong, and must apologize." It's almost always justa miscommunication that sets off a bunch of emotions, because one or the other (or both) are not aware of the intentions of the other person, or misunderstood something and made the wrong assumptions/conclusions. Talking it out is always the best way to move forward.

I know "love languages" is mostly pseudoscience, but it's not wrong in that different personalities with different upbringings/backgrounds, all have different preferences in how they like to be shown love and affection, and how they like to show others love and affection. Often the second (how to show affection to others) ends up just being a projection of the first (i.e. "This is how I like to be shown affection, so I will do the same to show my affection to others, since they must appreciate it in the same way I do.").

A few things for OP to consider in this situation:

  1. A nicer, newer version of an old, worn-out item that someone uses all the time and really likes, is a VERY common gift. It's a gift that people often give to show their loved ones that they really care and also that they pay attention to what is important to them. It's a way to show they aren't just "phoning it in" with a generic gift, but instead getting them something they know they'll put to good use and appreciate since they pay attention to their current "favorites" or interests, and thus the gift is meaningful in that way.
  2. OP's spouse likely appreciates gifts like that (a lot of people would), and would feel great receiving something like that from a loved one. So they projected that same preference onto OP, and based on that assumption, came into the situation with the expectation that OP would love the gift, and likely see it in the same way they themselves do - a thoughtful gift that really showed they care and put thought into something they knew their spouse would appreciate.
  3. When OP didn't immediately thank their spouse for such a thoughtful, heartfelt gift, the spouse's expectations were likely crushed. And they likely felt very hurt. Not just that OP didn't like the gift, but didn't even acknowledge all the thought and effort OP's spouse likely put into it. So it's not just "They didn't like my gift" but it's also more importantly "They totally ignored and disregarded all my love and care and effort I put into something that was done just for them." This sort of immediate crushed expectations can cause someone to suddenly lash out or feel very hurt without the ability to step back and calmly take in the situation and context. It will be hard for them to have a proper discussion with so many emotions and confusion in the situation. OP's spouse will need a bit of time, and then hopefully they can talk about it.
  4. OP should likely offer to sit down and talk it out with their spouse. "Hey I know you were really upset about my reaction to your gift, and I'd like to sit down and calmly talk all about it."
    OP should likely avoid just focusing on "You know I don't like new things, you know I like repairing old things, you know I found the original one from your mother to be sentimental, etc." OP can, and should, broach some of the above for sure, but introduce it with things like "I know that you put a lot of thought and care into your gift, and it showed that you really pay attention to my interests and what sort of things I am into and what items I put to good use. Your gift was definitely very thoughtful, and I apologize that my reaction seemed to discount that thoughtfulness entirely." and that's when OP can remind their spouse, "...but you know how I much prefer older things that I can keep repairing, and keep for sentimental value. This is part of me that defines my preferences and wants vastly more than the function of the thing itself. So while I am appreciative of your thoughtfulness for getting me a version of 'said thing' that functions in the same way but is new and in better shape, that is the reason I still feel like the gift doesn't quite hit the mark for what is important to me... because the age and sentimentality of my current one is extremely important to me, and I felt like you ignored that part of me when putting a lot of thought into the other aspects."
  5. Hopefully through talking it out, OP and spouse can realize they have different wants and expectations when it comes to gift giving, and overall how to show and receive affection amongst themselves, and keeping that communication open by reminding each other not to fall back on old assumptions. OP will likely want to make sure they are also considering the same when giving gifts to their spouse in the future. In fact...
  6. This conversation is a good time to broach that topic as well, in case OP's spouse has been disappointed by OP's gift giving in the past, but has been bottling it up instead of saying something about it. I mean, OP promised to stop giving them Nerdy T-Shirts, but what are the gifts now? Because if Nerdy T-shirts was the default, it might not be getting much more "thoughtful" after that (at least in their spouse's opinion). That could also explain the sudden emotional spike and argument outside of simple crushed expectations, if the spouse's anger was not just about OP not liking their gift, but the fact they have never received a good gift from OP either. "You never give me thoughtful gifts, and even worse, when I give you a very thoughtful gift, you have no reaction other than lack of caring!!! Why am I even trying?!?!" In fact, if OP's spouse was indeed bottling up that sort of disappointment, they may have been (consciously or subconsciously) using this gift, not only as a way to show OP they truly care by getting something specific to their interests/hobbies/etc., but also as a subtle hint to show OP the kinds of thoughtful gifts they would like as well. So when OP totally disregarded the gift, OP's spouse probably felt (1) crushed expectations causing their giddiness and anticipation to fall off a cliff to a deep pit in their gut, (2) hurt by the lack of acknowledgement for all the thought they put into something they felt was selfless and caring, dedicated solely to their partner, and (3) hopeless that OP would ever understand what a "good gift" is (in their opinion), and thus hopeless their message will ever get through OP's head. If this is the case, OP's spouse should probably just be open and communicate about their disappointment, and not use gifts they give as subtle hints to gifts they would like to receive, and hope the other person picks up on it. Especially if in doing so, they are perpetuating the same issue of giving their partner gifts that are "good for themself" as a "gift that would be good for their partner."
[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 79 points 4 days ago (8 children)

My wife got me a bartesian for Christmas last year. It makes the worst fucking drinks I've ever had in my life. It takes up space in my kitchen. The drink pods are like $3 each. It takes cleaning and maintenance. I hate everything about it.

I acted happy about it. Privately seethed and ranted. I literally would rather have gotten nothing than wasted money on that. And then I tried several drinks from it before "deciding" I had fun mixing my own drinks, but I still use it for guests and for her drinks that she likes.

I think it's god awful but I realized it made her happy and that is something I treasure. I don't know if there's anything in there for you to take away, but I can relate. Sometimes we just put on a happy face and let our loved ones enjoy giving us something.

[–] mitram2@lemmy.pt 54 points 4 days ago

For OP: This is one possible way to handle this situation, but it's not the only reasonable one

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[–] Pazintach@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This sounds like me... Father gave me a gift that I don't need, I get irritated and said something that I shouldn't say. Spouse pointed that out to me, said it was their thought that mattered. I feel sorry and guilty ever since...

I never used that thing, but I kept it very safe.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

In a perfect world, you can accept the gift graciously and then give it away later without making a big deal about it. At least in the Marie Kondo school of things, you think about how the person who gave you a gift out of kindness and love wouldn't want it to be burdening your life.

That's that if it really is important to them that you keep this gift. There might be something more complicated going on that I don't really understand.

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[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Nobody is a bad person here and both of your feelings are valid.

As others pointed out, your partner likely put significant effort into the gift and is hurt that the effort was in vain. Compounding that is the fact that you didn't seem to acknowledge their effort or treat their hurt as valid.

Your hurt is valid. You got given something you don't want and now you feel pressured to accept it to appease your partner. It's in certain ways worse than getting nothing.

The situation sucks and you'll both be hurt regardless of how you resolve it.

It's probably going to be very important for you two to work out gifts or gift giving occasions. What do you like to do, for yourself or with your partner. Maybe the answer to that question can be part of the solution.

For the time being you have a few options. You can keep the gift like the others have said, maybe as a backup. Or you can return it. I suggest that if you return it you spend the money on something you both enjoy, maybe a nice date to sooth the hurt.

Let your partner know that you appreciate the effort that went into this gift. Let them know that you know you're a hard person to buy for, especially because you're not very consumerist which means that the things typically for sale won't appeal to you. Let them know that it's important for you that you're both able to express love towards each other and that you want to make sure that the next time your partner expends significant effort for you that they're able to create a situation which is rewarding for the both of you.

Then sort out what you're going to do with this gift. Maybe explain your feelings about using the old device and how the new one can't do that for you.

Then make a plan to work out the line term goal of how you'll give each other gifts/experiences in the future. And actually do it. It might be a lot of work, but it will probably create a lot of joy in your relationship in the long run where there might have been even more pain.

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 59 points 4 days ago (4 children)

A) You are acting like an ungrateful tool.

B) Perhaps she should have held off.

Be measured in your response next time, but at least have a conservation about what you want.

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[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

They bought you thing they were sure you would like and tought they were thoughtful. Maybe they expected other kind of reaction and depending how you declined it, it very well may feel like you threw their nice thing against their face.

To most people, especially the spouces it may not be about the present, but the idea behind it. Like i dont generally think my wife knits very good socks. If i would go shopping socks my self i would never pay anything for that quality product. But i know my wife thinks i need to keep my feets warm and she is thinking me when she makes them. Saying her socks are bad would not be review of the product, but attack against her.

I would say just swallow your pride and use the newer nicer thing and thank them for thinking about you, but say in the future you want to get similiar things yourself.

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[–] AsoFiafia@lemmy.zip 43 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’m the same way with things, but I do think you handled this poorly. When people do things like this for me, also knowing I’d prefer to keep what I have or fix it if it’s malfunctioning/broken, my response is usually something along the lines of: “Thank you! This will come in handy when I can no longer use the one I have now. I’ll keep this safe until then!”

As someone else pointed out, they probably had a very good reason for getting that for you. When my lady bought me a new cell phone and I said basically what I wrote above, her response was that while she understands my current phone works, it doesn’t always work well, and she’d like to have longer, more meaningful conversations with me while I’m out of town. I asked her what she meant, since I saw no problem with it. She said my current phone didn’t keep a charge very long and the microphone wasn’t great. I learned that she called me less often than she’d like to because she felt like having me repeat myself and having to stop my work to charge the phone while having our talks was a bother to me, so she figured this would fix both of those problems. I swapped the service to the new phone immediately. She was elated, I was happy she was happy, and honestly I have a great phone that lasted two days on a charge for over a year. I also rarely have to repeat myself now, and didn’t realize that I was, in fact, bothered having to repeat myself until I didn’t have to.

Win-win, but you’ll never know if you shut it down.

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[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 38 points 4 days ago (7 children)

They want to improve your life by giving you something which is not broken and assumedly works better than whatever you’re using now. You are rejecting that because of your insistence that things must be old. They know you will never get it for yourself, and maybe they think you’re just being cheap. It probably hurts them seeing you use what to them looks like a piece of crap. It’s really hard to say without knowing what the actual items involved are In just speculating.

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[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A super old sex doll may be harboring microbes that could get your partner sick. Take the hint and accept the new one with some grace and class. Your mother-in-law is probably ok with it.

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[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Some families teach their kids that your ability to pick a gift directly equates to your value as a person.

Clearly her failure in this instance is more important to her than to you.

Whatever you do, try to help her feel valued.

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Down vote me if ya want but I very much feel OP. I always will take an older model or refurnished over some new, overly priced gizmo. I understand that the new thing is maybe an improvement but the capitalist churn of new devices every other week makes me sick. "What's wrong with older devices?", is my shtick. A computer from 2011 will run fine without a copious amount of bloat publishers push. I had a very thoughtful mother in law who fixed my screen on my computer instead of buying me a new laptop. My ex husband on the other hand always wanted the trendiest item Instagram was selling and would request his mom get it for him, we were poor (who would've guess two kids in their 20s were working on our finances). I'm still actively playing my original Xbox One from 16ish years ago, and my console still loads faster than my friends' newer consoles.

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 18 points 3 days ago

Honestly, most people suck at giving gifts. Most people struggle to put themselves in someone else's shoes

Your SO probably put real thought into the gift, and paid attention to you to come up with a good idea. And most people think new is better (although I'm with you). They think it's sour grapes or something when you tell them how you enjoy the fact something has been with you for all this time, and how you've carefully repaired it over the years

So all in all, that's a halfway well thought out gift. More effort than most people put into them, anyways. They were probably really excited and proud of themselves

I don't know what to do with that information... Personally I'd probably accept the gift and leave it in the closet as a backup. I'm not sure if that's better or not, but it would spread the experience out

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gifts don't have to be something you like, want, or need. It's about the thought, care, and love that goes into them. Whether you like new things or old things, it doesn't matter. Gifts have subtext. Your SO probably will equate your love for the gift with your love for them. Use them both. Love them both. Love the people who gave you both.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gifts don’t have to be something you like, want, or need

My whole intention with gifts is to make someone else happy. Otherwise, it's not a gift.

I get where you come from, I think there are great answers here that explain why the two people here are likely upset. But if you gift someone something that you know they won't like, that sucks.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

There is a difference between giving some a gift you know they don't like and giving someone a gift that they don't like. It's literally the thought that counts, and as someone who has been married a long time, it's important to place the thought first and the gift a distant second.

If (when) I get another tie for Father's Day, I won't necessarily like, want, or need it, but I will still cherish and appreciate it. It's nice to get things you like, but it's much nicer to be loved and appreciated.

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