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This is so funny because rust has one of the worst cheating situations and majority of their players are windows users, and theres lots of games that have anticheat that allows linux and have notably less significant cheating problems like marvel rivals. in reality rust doesn't take cheating very seriously because if they did they would have more server side software that detects illegitimate behaviour like tons of other games do successfully...... even most popular Minecraft servers have better functioning anti cheat that is completely server side than rust has while getting kernel access to your pc. its pathetic and lazy development tbh and this entire post from them reads like such extreme cope....

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This is the same BS CrowdStrike uses to sell their rootkit EDR. I mean, by all means it is a very solid EDR, but it's being used exclusively to cover gaping holes in discrete security as a cop out for not properly composing enterprise infrastructure.

A kernel space agent should only really be running in an environment where every process must be heavily scrutinized and the design of the kernel module is tightly controlled and itself under constant review, like in a proper data center with thousands of critical nodes. Not your laptop or the shitty windows box used to display ads in the screens at the airport.

Crowdstrike keeps spamming new features and techniques without serious consideration to keep their enterprise customers happy, similar to crappy solutions like Vanguard.

Covering obvious blatant logic flaws should be included in your server software, it's the same as sanity checking your inputs because there is always the possibility in may not match what you expect.

From that experience, I'm very comfortable saying that if a game supports Proton or Linux, they're not serious about anti-cheat

This statement is especially insulting to the massive library of games that successfully added Linux support without so much as a hint of issue relating to cheating. Even crappy outsourced dev War Thunder doesn't need to do anything after enabling EAC/BattilEye because they actually spend the .000001% extra cash from their whale revenue to run a service moderation team.

Hell even Valve's VAC system is mostly just about automating moderation tasks so that hackers can be taken down ASAP instead of a lengthy review process.

Or you know, the thousands of games that have better game logic than Rust's anticheat.

[–] Paddle0681@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I gave up Rust when I moved to Linux.

They are changing the game from building a cozy PvP Minecraft, to a clan based wargame.

Cozy players, don't cheat, clans do (Not all, of course).

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[–] ech@lemmy.ca 36 points 6 days ago (3 children)

When we stopped support for Linux, we saw more cheat users exploiting Linux, than actual legitimate users.

Am I reading this wrong? Or is this guy really trying to say the very predictable rise in exploit users on the platform after they stopped patching the exploits is proof that the platform is full of cheaters?

[–] worhui@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago

Yes. It sounds like they removed anti cheat from linux for a spell and watched an uptick in cheater switching platforms. So they weren't willing to support the anticheat, removed it from the game and watched cheaters flock to the platform. I don't think they are saying linux users are cheaters, just that cheater will use linux if vulnerable.

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[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

It's not even real Rust unless it's coded in the real Rust language of Rustlandia.

Otherwise it's just sparkling oxidation

[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

i wonder if this guy heard about counter strike...

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 6 days ago

Fair point. Means I'm not going to play the game, but that's fine too.

Curious to see though if the Valve Frame/Gabe Cube changes things.

[–] dhhyfddehhfyy4673@fedia.io 28 points 6 days ago (15 children)

Glad I never gave this cunt any money.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago

Who could have imagined that the people who create toxic PvP games are as toxic as the people who play them?

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I tried Rust, but quit quickly due to the extreme levels of racism and open Nazis. Maybe they should address some core issues of the game before blaming Linux for their problems?

Also, how was their playerbase only 0.01% Linux? Was their game terrible on Linux? Why did it have hundreds of time less players than other platforms

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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

TBF, you'd have to pay me to play most of these "anti-cheat" games anyhow.

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[–] Mikina@programming.dev 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

one that would be poorly maintained by both us and EAC due to the low user base.

I'm sure I've been playing a lot of games with EAC, because it's actually one of the few ones that support Linux.

If I'm not mistaken (judging entirely by the RAC popup/loading), from the games I'm playing, Hell Let Loose, Fellowship, Helldivers 2, I think even The Finals used it.

Hell Let Loose wasn't working at first, because you have to check a checkbox and enable Linux support when building, which did take them a while.

So, unless I'm misremembering/confusing it with another anticheat, this is bullshit.

Also "unless you have an in-house anti-cheat team"

You made millions out of your player base. You can afford it. You're just lazy.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I think Helldivers 2 uses EAC and it works on Proton just fine.

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[–] tabular@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

If Linux gamers are not worth his time as we are so few then maybe this singular person's comments are not worth our time over and over.

I hope for more than merely support for a freer OS. I want the whole video games industry to move away from a proprietary model to software freedom - where demand for support is not dependant on the original dev.

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 22 points 6 days ago

Fair. There are other games I can play on Linux,.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Rust is a shit game with a terrible community and rampant cheating.

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[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

This is the Garry's Mod dude?

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 19 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This guy is from the UK and former military. I think there must be some kind of weird haywire thing where the military experience made him irrationally upset about people who do not follow rigid rules and structure or something.

No doubt he spends most nights stalking cheater forums and dreaming about the day he finally wins his war lol

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