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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This should be on LinkedIn

[–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] msage@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago

This is LinkedIn

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

This probably is on LinkedIn

[–] TommyJohnsFishSpot@lemy.lol 64 points 1 week ago

Bottoming is a purely economic activity

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

havin a fake account like

Stephen Investings Co.

and then posting dum shid like this sounds like a great idea-

even like - on lemmy...

Be the change.

[–] Best_Jeanist@discuss.online 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lemmy users are assholes to bit accounts

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

to bot accounts yeag, but when its an intentional funi real lufe human-controlled account - i feel its fine.

[–] Cybersec@piefed.social 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Also they get the synergy of getting to share clothes for some cost savings (I’m guessing?)

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gay men are after all famous for being frugal in their clothing styles.

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol me and my ex would argue about clothes all the time. He always wanted Gucci and Prada. I wanted to have money in my savings account.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

So you compromised on getting only Gucci OR Prada instead of both?

[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago

Frugal I like it

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some people understand intersectionality. Others unknowingly demonstrate the ideas on Xhitter.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm a little gray on the subject, can you help me out.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Simple answer is that movements for women, race, gay rights, etc. are all fighting against the same system of oppression and need to stand united together. The OP drives a wedge between women and gay men. Intentional or not, it's a divide and conquer approach, and we should call that out when we see it.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Ah, thank you. I've heard the term some times before, but didn't know really what was meant.

Average Linkedin post:

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

On another topic, I'm reminded of some good greentext on someone transitioning and the boss going like "based, you're a gal now. so, i'll treat you as one by a paycut".

the resulting comments basically were ppl talking whether it was more worthwhile to pay for someone's mtf transition in full (with a paycut) or to not have a paycut. original post here

in short, assuming a €3,000/mo salary, with a paycut of -27%, it would be worth if HRT costs were about €97,200 or higher. And that's if the employee in total will work/have worked there for 10 years minimum. But that's a very simple calculation. Reality's more complex. At the bottom's the conclusion.


Medical costs

Tap for spoilermore realistically though, assuming the following costs for 2025, and then taking the most expensive US-level prices:

  • full on vaginoplasty surgery; let's say €15,000
  • full body laser, skin treatments: €10,000
  • jaw feminisation: €20,000

Then there are meds. Let's assume a dystopia like the US where this isn't free. That could be €100/mo (let's say starting at 20, ending at like 80. idk if that is the case but let's assume that). at a rate of 3% inflation on average, barring spikes, that's gonna cost €82,700 in total, rounded up).

But the median stay is about 5-15 years at their employer. So let's say 5 years worth of meds as a starter. That's €6,400 (rounded up), calculating it by 10012 = 1200/yr; 1200, 12001.03, 1200*1.03^2, etc, till ^4.

You'd then be looking at a total cost of €51,900 for HRT (meds + surgeries) during that period, assuming you did all the surgeries in the first year. If you did the surgeries in the last year, it'd be €58,540 rounded up.


Now onto the wages and living costs.

Tap for spoilerMost women and minorities get discriminated and are often paid less, though. So let's assume that. Let's suppose the gross wage is €3,000.

After tax, that makes €2,400. Most of this helps you, eg nature maintenance, firefighters, medical workers, public services; those are cheaper with tax than without, because everyone contributes.

Now the landlord, and let's be depressingly realistic; now you only have €1,000. (Greed, eh?). If you live in public housing, you'd have €1,800.

But anyway, groceries and energy; €700. Then utilities and extra shit: €500. That is what you are left with. So, your yearly costs are €25,000 in the first year.

This means that if you need an 'emergency "6 months" fund, you'd actually need to work for 3 years, to build it up (more, probably). All thanks to landlords and capitalism; under communism this would be far more affordable.

Let's assume these costs rise with 3% each year. In total, over the 5 years you'd then have about €161,200 worth of costs.


Paycut: The Proposed Deal

Tap for spoilerSo, how about a -25% paycut? Let's assume your employer doesn't do it instantly through your gross income -- otherwise you'd end up losing €310/mo, meaning you'd not be able to survive at all unless if you had no greedy landlord. And an employer doesn't want someone unable to work.

Instead, the deal is: you get to stay at your work for 5 years, but your boss doesn't give you raises for 5 years. Let's assume a raise is 3.5%.

This means you'd end up skipping the increases of €105, €108, €113, €116, and €121 per month, on that €3k/mo. That means you lose out on €49,788 in those five years, rounded to €50,000. You'd earn €150,000 instead of €200,000 in the last year, a paycut of about 25% in total.


Summary

Tap for spoilerSo... you'd have €51,900-58,540 worth of HRT fully covered, but you lose €50,000 in future salaries. Assuming first-year surgeries, in total you'd earn €150,000 in salary, but lose about €161,900 in living costs, an impending deficit of €11,900. So it's not worth it, even if you did the surgeries in the end of the time period. It'd be better to not take the bait, and instead have surgeries etc. ASAP while you have normal raises.

However, consider the next.

Say you had socialised housing (thanks, unions and worker-owned co-ops!). Instead of paying €2,500/mo to landlord rent, fossil energy bills, and groceries, you'd pay €1,700/mo or €20,400 in the first year. Then your living costs w/ inflation, are about €110,000 over five years (no deficit). With uncovered HRT on top of that, surgeries first year, that'd net almost €161,900 in costs. Assuming you had raises, you'd have a net positive of €38,100, because you earnt €200,000.

If in this socialised scenario you took the deal (no raises, but got HRT covered), you'd have very similar same net positive earnings (€40,000), in fact a little higher. So in this case, it's worth to have HRT covered, if only for the job security and because it means you can likely do all surgeries earlier.


Conclusion

It depends on how high your living costs are. If you are close to living paycheck to paycheck, then it ain't worth it, unless if you already had a buffer of €11,900 before getting into that deal. Nor is it worth it if HRT already is covered in your country's universally affordable healthcare.

But if the latter isn't the case where you live, and your other costs of living are low, then "5 years job security, no raise, HRT covered" is a great deal.

This is why, if you live paycheck to paycheck, it matters to reduce costs of living. And for that: join a union, become a worker-owned co-op, vote left, strike and protest, be gay and do crimes.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Until you learn how much IVF and surrogacy costs 😭

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Not having kids also saves a lot of money.

[–] gaiussabinus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

This takes gay for pay to a whole new level.

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I sometimes daydream about a life with a man instead of a woman. On paper it just makes sense