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I mean... the good news is that sex workers clearly think it is worth advertising here.
Except... probably not. A good friend of mine has her content posted somewhat prominently here and on mastodon. She herself is not involved in the slightest and it is just someone karma farming in systems without global (or local) karma.
Then what’s the angle, especially if it’s an NSFW alt? Is the reposter dropping affiliate links or something?
Sometimes it is a hardcore simp who has keyed in on the complete lack of discoverability in the OF space.
More often... people are just deeply fucking stupid. Its the same reason you'll see people incorporate the same obnoxious self-censoring that tiktoks do in their posts... because they know that pewdiepie is afraid of getting demonetized for saying "pedophile" so they might be too. Or... the dumbfucks who shout into a speaker phone in public because they saw kim kardashian do it on the tv.
And same here. They are keyed in enough to realize that sites like reddit are full of people who post porn to get their accounts enough karma to get past most filters without realizing that the goal of that is to then nuke the past messages and sell it to a marketing firm (which is why reddit finally added the ability to hide an account's posts and comments).
They are keyed in enough to realize that sites like reddit are full of people who post porn to get their accounts enough karma to get past most filters without realizing that the goal of that is to then nuke the past messages and sell it to a marketing firm.
This is weird enough to be plausible. The world be like that.
Sometimes it is a hardcore simp who has keyed in on the complete lack of discoverability in the OF space.
Ahh, that makes sense. I hadn’t thought of that.
OF simps being aware of the Fediverse is interesting, though.
I kinda have a distant fascination with this whole ecosystem. Like, what drives all this money and attention to change hands? I don’t really see the appeal of idolization, myself, which is why I find it interesting I suppose.
I kinda have a distant fascination with this whole ecosystem. Like, what drives all this money and attention to change hands? I don’t really see the appeal of idolization, myself, which is why I find it interesting I suppose.
Only Fans? People be horny and the most successful sex workers understand that it isn't the stripper who shows her poon on stage that makes the most money: it is the one who can work a crowd and manufacture a "connection" with the guy who will pay for five lap dances a week. Its why so many of them will sell private videos and text messaging as an incentive (and then, when they make enough money, pay a service to do said texting). At which point it is the old screenshot of a kid commenting on a pewdiepie video that they are going to mow the lawn and then they are back.. except it is someone typing one handed to a porn vod.
Advertisement and astroturfing? Advertisement works. People pretend they are above it but they aren't. One of my genuine favorite examples was back during the pandemic when one of the WWE shows came on right before some reality tv show called Sex Island or whatever. You could watch in real time as people began by complaining they hate all the ads and it is trashy (it really lowered the vibes of the sex trafficker company...). But, after a few weeks, there were "ironic" watch alongs on all the major wrestling message boards.
And that is especially true on reddit and the like. There is a reason that "SEARCH STRING reddit" was a "lifehack". And people are generally smart enough to call out the account with -20 karma that is talking about how awesome the Babish Wok is. They are less likely to do that when the account has 5k karma and the last few comments look legit.
And... if you know the right circles to look in, there are still orgs that will pay for "real" social media accounts either for one offs or for ownership.
I guess I’m just not wired that way. An influencer live-streaming or a stripper who’ll talk sweet to me for a few bucks doesn’t feel like a connection, at all, but for billions it apparently does…
And yeah, on gaming the system, the complicity of the system is also interesting.
Like… OnlyFans ostensibly isn’t a porn platform. But they know what they’re doing. The credit card companies know what they’re doing yet turn a blind eye? How does that work?
Same with Reddit. Karma farming is horrible for the site's long term health, yet they seem to structure things to encourage it as much as they can.
Like… OnlyFans ostensibly isn’t a porn platform. But they know what they’re doing. The credit card companies know what they’re doing yet turn a blind eye? How does that work?
OnlyFans corporate actively downplays the porn and STILL try to pretend it is about normal vlogging and fitness. It is a big chunk of why there was that former disney channel actress who made a huge deal about posting some bikini shots to OF. She made bank and OF got themselves in the news as "actually it is all not even softcore". Similarly, OF has shockingly strict and well defined rules for the kinds of content that can be sold (stuff like "no fisting").
And the payment providers generally don't care until they are legally forced to care.
Same with Reddit. Karma farming is horrible for the site’s long term health, yet they seem to structure things to encourage it as much as they can.
Long term doesn't matter but also...
Reddit's product isn't people pretending they are clever for referencing an eighteen year old joke from It's Always Sunny or having endless arguments over whether someone is morally virtuous for posting a meme about someone they don't like being a bad pet owner.
The product is the advertisement and "authority". Having someone respond to "what wok should I buy" with a summary of why you kind of want the cheapest carbon steel piece of crap you can find with the desired diameter, bottom, and handles isn't helpful. Blog sites already exist. Hell, you can check the heat map on the youtube search bar for how many people just skip to the end of a Project Farm video.
But by having the top result be whatever brand won that week's fight? Suddenly everyone talks about how much they hate google and how the real secret is to search "best wok reddit". And then if reddit suddenly starts charging for data scraping so google can't see it anymore or API access to automate those kinds of "grass roots" answers?
As for long term? There is no long term. They have years of training data. They'll get bought out by whoever wants it the most and then be done with it.
Even cynically, it’s so shortsighted though!
Look at Facebook: Llama 4 was architecturally conservative and shouldn’t have failed so hard. Hence a lot of people suspect using Meta stuff as training data “poisoned” it, especially with how weird and sloppy its responses are.
In other words, the proliferation of slop on Facebook is already sinking them.
Reddit would be massively valuable as an ongoing “clean” data source, and investors would understand that. But nope…
There is no such thing as an "ongoing 'clean' data source". Because the people paying for these models are actively using it on those platforms. Whether it is because they are too stupid to express their own thoughts and "use chatgpt for coming up with ideas" or because they are running a bot farm.
And the reality is that... it doesn't actually matter. People are on the "dead internet theory" bandwagon again. But... think back to the past five or six years. How often have you had a meaningful conversation on ANY social media platform? It happens occasionally, but mostly you can hope for someone to key in on a single sentence you said or actively misrepresent your post because they wanted to tell a joke they clearly have been workshopping for the past few days. More often you get someone who just keys in on a single word and pastes a copypasta that they know will do well (see: Basically any topic about "AI" on the fediverse...). And that is assuming you get a reply at all.
Let alone all the people who pretend the internet used to be a wonderful place where you get the answer to everything instantly rather than worrying if chatgpt hallucinated. Those motha fuckers clearly never spent much time on stack overflow or the intel message boards...
"AI" didn't learn how to pass the Voight-Kampff test. Humanity now does so poorly on it that we have to grade on a curve.
So as for "sloppy" models? We are probably less than a year out before influencers start bragging that they love ShitGPT 7 because "it isn't pretentious. It talks like me". Sorry "Others disingenuous. ShitGPT speak truth gooder. Like, comment, subscribe and use my affilly linkle"
I mean, fair. You're preaching to the choir there. People look back on the 'old' internet with some incredible rose-tinted glasses, 100%.
So as for “sloppy” models? We are probably less than a year out before influencers start bragging that they love ShitGPT 7 because “it isn’t pretentious. It talks like me”. Sorry “Others disingenuous. ShitGPT speak truth gooder. Like, comment, subscribe and use my affilly linkle”
Have you seen the AI acolyte youtubers? Or /r/OpenAI? We're already there, heh, and it's even weirder than that.
...That being said, there is an earnest interest in non "sloppy" models and training. For instance, there's this longrunning thread, trying to dig through old releases and find the one that's least deep-fried (as they are increasingly getting): https://huggingface.co/jukofyork/creative-writing-control-vectors-v3.0/discussions/15#6910bfd226329b755d084c69
Or efforts to objectively measure slop, and create a slop 'taxonomy' tree from all the models training on each other: https://eqbench.com/creative_writing.html
There are plenty of real NSFW accounts on here, but they are using post bots so that they only have to write one post and the bot will automatically post it for them on all their different promotion channels (instagram, facebook, twitter, bluesky, reddit, lemmy, etc)
I have marked this post nsfw. while it does not have complete nudity, it still is not completely sfw imo. I do not think it should be deleted (i recieved a report).
That's what's called advertising
Here, fixed. 👍
Good job blurring Sofiatreni's name.
They should consider donating 500$ per month on the instance.
Such a big heart, or actually it looks like two of them... two very large hearts yes...♥️♥️