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lemmit.online (lemmy.zip)
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Hi, I've noticed that bot@lemmit.online has been banned.
Since that account posts all of the content on that instance, this is essentially equivalent to defederating from lemmit.online.
I realize that not everybody likes lemmit.online since it is all just reposts from Reddit, but it seems like it would be preferable to just put it on the default block list instead of banning the content entirely for all users. I personally like being able to read content from Reddit here without having to give Reddit my traffic.
Would it be possible to unban?

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[โ€“] Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Hey, so i banned it for a couple of reasons. Firstly, it was mainly unmoderated and was causing a lot of mod reports we had to resolve under various spam and wrong community reports. There was sometimes a fair bit of porn it was reposting iirc too, which causes a fair few issues especially if it was reposting copyrighted material.

Secondly, it was taking up a lot of space. It had something like 1.5 million posts at the time I banned it. It was causing the user page to fail to load for admins because of just how big the search queries were becoming in the database. It wasn't manageable anymore.

Thirdly it was only very infrequently upvoted/interacted with locally, to the point it went weeks without interaction where we stored tens of thousands of posts and subsequent thumbnails for no apparent reason.

We don't have unlimited budget and storage is our biggest risk factor to cost, so ultimately we have to be pragmatic about hosting that content. We don't have the budget of some of the larger servers unfortunately.

Hope that helps ๐Ÿ˜Š

@MagicShel@lemmy.zip @frongt@lemmy.zip @Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com

[โ€“] frongt@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you!

[โ€“] StellarExtract@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

No worries, I get that. Thanks for replying

[โ€“] Blaze@piefed.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for clarifying!

[โ€“] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe it's different now, but two years ago it was just an echo chamber. No one responded to the posts because they weren't responding to an actual person. You can't tell people who the asshole is or answer their weird sex questions.

I never saw any point and blocked that account and whole server. It's just noise and a waste of bandwidth.

[โ€“] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Valid, but shouldn't that be the choice of the user? I don't see it because I don't browse all, and if you browse all you have to apply some filters because you will get all, and I don't think anyone truly wants that.

[โ€“] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's fine to be up to the user. But it's also fine to say it's just a spam account and block it to save bandwidth. Easy for me to say, of course, since I'm already not seeing the content.

The cool thing about the fediverse is that no one really controls the whole thing, so I give a lot of deference to folks who want to run things their own way. Anyone with a strong option that it needs to be done differently can stand up their own instance pretty easily.

Or to summarize, you have a point but that doesn't oblige the server to be run that way.

[โ€“] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

True, but I'm not sure that it's a significant load on the server. In terms of disk space the biggest impact is probably image hosting; does that content get mirrored? Text posts are negligible. Or quantity of database items might affect queries.

[โ€“] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

So that's where all the porn went!

[โ€“] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Serious comment: why would the bot get banned instead of people just using the user/instance filter if they didn't like it? This seems like blowing up a burger king because a friend said they'd rather not eat there.

[โ€“] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because the admin has to host all that content, which I imagine contains 0.01% interesting stuff for less than 1% of the users.

Last time I ran a Lemmy instance I used like 300GB in a few weeks and that was just by firehosing ALL Lemmy posts. Storage gets bloated fast unless the admin actively implements hacks, like not caching media content. But that kind of defeats the purpose of federation IMO.

[โ€“] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's quitter talk.

Seriously though, thanks for the insight. I still like having the content, but your points make total sense.

[โ€“] StellarExtract@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Of course, it's also possible it was just a mistake, which is partly why I made the post. The reason listed for the ban was "post spam," which could be considered an accurate characterization given the volume, but might also be a misinterpretation of the content.

[โ€“] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Also a good point. Wonder if we will ever know the answer lol.