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[–] needanke@feddit.org 50 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The baker profession actually immensly suffered from increased automation...

Alas, same with buggy whips.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

I mean . . . good?

Technology removed inefficiencies so that later generations could devote their time and pursuits to other options instead.

Chat is progress good actually?

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 57 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Be careful equating efficiency with progress, as everything you like about your life is ultimately inefficient.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Oooh. Nice.

[–] lena 23 points 2 weeks ago

Automation is great. We just need to collectively own it.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Only until it decides you an inefficiency to be removed.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No because the people saw none of the benefits. It was hoarded by the billionaires.

We all work longer hours than our grandparents, we get less pay, and fewer of us sleep inside.

This is your 'progress'.

Only killing our masters would allow progress to anything I'll ever want.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

somewhat

local bakeries making good product closing down because they're undercut by the giant chain store across the street selling shitty loafs at a loss is a bad thing, because it removes competition and then the corporate bakery can jack up prices on a shittier product because that's all that's left

the automation itself isn't bad, once again, it's the tool in the hands of a corporation that isn't regulated well enough

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah our factory bread doesn’t even count as bread in France. It’s been modified to allow machines to make it, by adding tons of chemicals that make it withstand kneading faster, baking quicker lasting on the shelf for months and a bunch of other factors that only increase profits for few remaining big corps that own it all.

Fuck factory breads, we could do it with smaller bakeries with wheat, water, yeast, sugar, and salt if we wanted to pay for it.

Let AI replace middle Managment and give us all UBI and see how many of us would like to make our own bread.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Let AI replace middle Managment and give us all UBI and see how many of us would like to make our own bread.

I agree but I'll leave the bread making to someone else. There isn't a dough in the world that doesn't hate me. Luckily my gf is good with baking tho so we've still got it covered

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Chat is progress good actually?

Quick! Raise both arms. Dial 9.1.1 and tell them you've had a stroke.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

It can only good happen!

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

"Chat, is progress good, actually?"

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Industrial bread machines motherfucker, have you heard of them?

[–] Blemish5236@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago

Oh fuck I'm gonna crumb 🥴

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

I refuse to call that bread. That's a sugar filled disgrace.

[–] python@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

That's what they used to call me in college

[–] Uiop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago

Things like that have existed for quite a while...

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

FEEL LIKE BAKING LOVE

[–] inconel@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

From what I skimmed their manual no internet connection mentioned. So it won't transmit your usage or tap your conversion, which is a plus.

Zojirushi's core product is rice cooker/pressure cooker, this seems another variant with mixing(kneading) motor. Attatchable mixing blade and presets of holding temperature & bake temperature combo for cookies, different doughs (lean, butter rich one, pizza) etc. From what I read those presets are not tweakable so it'll produce ok bread unless you want to customize for your own taste or start experimenting stuff.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

Heck, Zojirushi makes a bread machine?

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I can smell this picture; I love home baked bread. I agree with the sentiment.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think my family had that same machine when I was a child.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

If you want the exact same loaf every time its a good option. If you want something that's not a unitasker you're probably better off with a stand mixer.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, because we all want to be bakers and work in restaurants.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Taking away the profit potential of a skilled labor task - especially labor skills that are difficult to obtain, is always going to be painful. Especially for those who earned their knowledge through blood, sweat, and tears.

In some ways it tell ls us the hard job was actually possible to make easy by doing it another way.

But when one door closes another door opens, right? .... Right...?

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Ohh no, they can make croissant now?