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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Ok, ultra corrupt and all, but at least from environmental pov (especially water) killing soy where USA grew it en masse is a really good thing afaik.
It was too forced & unsustainable.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I dont know if country's in south America are filling the gap the US created, but if yes its probably much worse than farming in the US.

I once had the chance to hear a lecture from a Brazilian professor about how soy gets grown in Brasil and that shit was terrifying. Slavery like working conditions. Corruption, massive landgrabs, insane use of pesticides (they literally used to apply them with airplanes until it got banned due to health "concerns" (it actively destroys your health) for the civilians) and mono cultures all the way through. It was very informative, but fucking scary. Due to the fact that massive sizes of land are not really listed and nobody owns them. So farmers are literally creating their own documents, that say they own certain land, put them in a drawer with crickets, so the paper looks older than it is, go to the local government and surprise, they now own even more land.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The European colonial empires fell sixty years ago, and it wasn't even out of sheer stupidity that America is doing right now. China is laughing out of sheer happiness that they are filling the vacuum that US is leving due to plain stupidity.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Temporary" my ass. They are going to beg for those evil socialistic handouts for the coming years. Simply because it is unlikely to get better.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Well yeah, farm subsidies aren’t new.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

What a bunch of welfare queens. They should have planted crops people want to buy.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

To be fair, killing farming in the USA wasn't a difficult task. Most countries importing any American food products have had major restrictions on them for years due to safety and hygiene concerns. The EU, for instance, pretty much only imported some soy and grain, because anything else doesn't meet our quality standards. There only had to be a single minor inconvenience here to end the imports from the USA.

And in all honesty - wonderful news for Europeans. I don't think any of us will miss American products. Personally I'll happily pay a tiny bit more for soy from Brazil or China.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The "we" in the "we walled ourselves in" is not a fucking "we", buddy, it is a "you"

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[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Aren't farmers who are among the most conservative voters worldwide?

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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I'm hoping this means low soy-food prices. And other beans. Beans are the best.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

All bailout money is earmarked for the corporations. We need to save the banks and the auto industry! Again!! /s

[–] eve@evecodes.com 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Americans are learning the hard way that elections have consequences, and I’m loving it. Sadly, most still won’t learn. I said it before and I’ll continue to say it that Trump, Elon and their lackies are anarchists. They are destroying the government because they hate government (because it gets in their way) and they’re not going to put any of it back. He’ll be gone and we’ll have some broken, ghetto, incompetent government that can’t put the pieces back together and it’s what we’ll be stuck with for generations to come while other countries progress.

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[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 9 points 1 month ago

And this on X? Man people ARE waking up… a handful of years or two too late but still.

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

And now JD Vance’s Acretrader can come buy up all the land for cheap and sell it to foreign interests!

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I wonder what their pitch to the "soy boys" will be.

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