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CEO Steve Huffman says tech giants should not be able to trawl Reddit’s huge store of data for free. But that information came from users, not the company

That β€œcorpus of data” is the content posted by millions of Reddit users over the decades. It is a fascinating and valuable record of what they were thinking and obsessing about. Not the tiniest fraction of it was created by Huffman, his fellow executives or shareholders. It can only be seen as belonging to them because of whatever skewed β€œconsent” agreement its credulous users felt obliged to click on before they could use the service.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Funniest thing to do is honestly replace your old comments with ChatGPT refusals. If you put "As an AI language model" everywhere, it'll really mess with the ML algorithms to make your data useless.

[–] impulse@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion that what really made me delete my account early (I initially wanted to wait until the 30th to see how things play out) was the ridiculous number of people defending this bullshit and promoting the official Reddit app as the superior option.

Some going as far as saying 3rd party devs are leeches and scammers.

I can only tolerate so much stupidity and ignorance before I bail.

[–] LittleKerr@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait, you mean there's people -actual real and not-paid by who knows people- who believes that the official Reddit app is superior?? I know a few that believe it's not thaaat bad, but 'superior'? Lmao

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I see this kind of behavior happen a lot online, and asked ChatGPT about it:

Yes, there is a term that describes this phenomenon. It's called "oppositional belief perseverance" or "belief polarization." This term refers to the tendency of individuals to cling to their initial beliefs even when presented with evidence that contradicts those beliefs. In the context you described, someone may initially take the opposite side of a discussion due to an opposition bias, but over time, they may start to internalize and genuinely believe the opposing viewpoint, thereby demonstrating belief polarization.

[–] gorillakitty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This chatgpt comment brought to you from comments on reddit

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I said it with Facebook and would do the same for Reddit, I would happily pay a little each month to not have my data sold or used inappropriately and be ad free.

[–] yacht_boy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am trying out the Kagi search tool for that very reason, and their Orion browser. Have not yet signed up to pay them $5/month but am leaning towards it.

But when I mentioned it here I had someone immediately saying they couldn't see spending $60/year on something they are used to getting for "free."

[–] WillfulBedder@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

I've been using Kagi for the past two months. Honestly, I'm pretty happy with it and I can't think of any major misses in terms of search accuracy. I think it's very difficult to get out of the mindset that search should be free, but I'm trying to put my money where my mouth is as it were, to try to support adtech free services.

[–] wotsit_sandwich@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am enjoying being able to observe this story from the beginning, before the media started writing about it. It's been an interesting few weeks.

[–] hikarulsi@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also there is no moral high ground for The Guardian as an evil corp to comment on the Reddit dumpster fire

[–] dimspace@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They are literally the only UK daily newspaper not owned by some rich owner or conglomerate, and about the only newspaper (along with the observer) that does not publicly support one of the two main political parties.

And 2018 study found the guardian was by far the most trusted of the uk daily's, and second only to the bbc as a news source https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2018/10/30/western-europeans-under-30-view-news-media-less-positively-rely-more-on-digital-platforms-than-older-adults/

but yes, im a Guardian reader so maybe biased. but theres a reason I read them, and not another.

[–] lucidinferno@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How are they evil? After doing a google search to see how they perform as a news organization, I’m genuinely curious about your viewpoint.

[–] DulyNoted@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It's a classic right wing talking point. They like to present the Guardian as biased and bullshit as the Daily Mail or the Mirror or something.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One of the few not owned by a rich proprietor, iirc?

[–] lucidinferno@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is what I noticed as well. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but they seem to have the appearance of being as unbiased as NPR, AP, or BBC.

[–] dimspace@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

They are essentially liberal, if a little left sided of centre, but I think they are the only UK newspaper that does not publicly support any political parties.

[–] constantokra@lemmy.one -1 points 2 years ago

Wide op for ai scraping and nothing are not the only two options. They could easily limit api calls to what would be good for single users or mods and have each user generate their own key. Apps could let users input their key. Most users wouldn't bother and would switch to their app anyway so it would get them 95% or what they claim to want without being a dick about it.