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[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 48 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is like saying you can't make fun of Kristi Noem because she's a woman. If you mock her for being a woman you're a piece of shit, if you mock her for all of the horrible things she does and says you're fine. Her sex and gender have nothing to do with her being an awful stain on humanity (and dogkind).

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's like saying you can't make fun of JD Vance for being a couch fucker. Oh wait, you can.

Sorry(I stole this gif)

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, you see. What youre doing here is making light of the sexual assault of that finely crafted Italian couch. Sexual assault against seating happens every day, and its no laughing matter.

For anyone reading this, is you or anyone you know has a couch or chair that has suffered a sexual assault by a parent or other family member, please know that you are not alone. Please call 555-26824, and speak to one of our SAS(Seating assault specialists) volunteers today.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

my poor chesterfield will never sit the same.

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[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, she did a lot for shinning a light on the struggles of trans people. She did fucking nothing for the stereotype of women drivers...

[–] cooligula@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Spotted Ricky Gervais

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Are we allowed a measure of schadenfreude at the trans person that joined the anti trans party being mocked by the transphobes they tried to court with hate for a different "other"?

Because that's the part I like.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Reminds me of the "Jew for Hitler" folk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews

Ffs turns out there were two similar groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Vanguard

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 3 points 1 month ago

It's so insane to me that she exists.

Literally conservatives calling trans folks sexual predators and then she turns around and goes, "I know every single one but me!"

Then again, black folk be like this too.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They literally dont see the difference. Making fun of Catelyn's shitty behavior and crimes and making fun of trans women in general is one and the same to them. They think that actions necessarily stem, fundamentally, from the "kinds" of people they are. Everyone is a characticture, a stereotype.

"You're gay? Well you're a leftie, socialist, gun-hating, pedophile who speaks effeminately, dresses flamboyantly, and does drag" They wouldnt even know how to handle a gay man that wears carhartt and camo, has a big bushy beard, votes Republican and owns a gun store, becuase such a thing is self-contradictory to them. How can this masculine beast of a guy be attracted to other men and want to have sex with them? It doesn't compute.

It's why gay men, black men, women and others that join Republican groups, people that don't fit the mold, find themselves often targetted with hatred and derision by their own "allies". It's not just that they are hateful bigots (and they are), but that they genuinely do not actually believe that they can be sincere in their shared beliefs because they aren't the right kind of people.

They are literally deciding Charlie Kirk's assassin must have been a leftie based entirely on the possibility that he might have had a sexual relationship with a trans roommate. Yes, a big part of that conclusion is grasping at anything to escape culpability and scape goat the left as usual, but they do also fully beleive that that is damning evidence. Becuase right wingers never have anything but herero-normative sex lives. Dont tell Grindr.

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I learned to stop working off that strict either-or dichotomy when I met my first girlfriend. She was the crunchy blissed out (read: permanently stoned) type who was all about PLUR, good vibes, and hemp jewlery. At least until you brought up abortion, immigration, or any other conservative boogeyman. Then she was Pat Buchanan with a redheaded wig and a copy of Billy Breathes.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I think that's a result of the US two-party system. It's spilling over to Europe too, via the media, but I think it originates with the US political system.

It's so tribal and "bi-partisan".

In my country, there's 6 major parties, which are all a different mix on what they are for and what they are against. That means, there's a much larger set of "buckets" a person can fit in. Due to the fact that there are often multiple parties that one person would be OK with voting for them, there's a lot more voter mobility, and thus it's much more common that someone doesn't actually fully agree with a single party at all, but switches which party to vote for depending on what's going on.

If stereotypes aren't enforced that much, people tend to be quite much more complex and self-contradictory than what appears at first glance if you just look for stereotypes.

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Many people like that.

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago

It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that shitty people are distributed through the population. There are shitty people in every single subgroup.

And an annoyingly high number of them are far more famous that I like.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Honest question from an ally. She was Bruce and going by masculine verbage then. Is it still misgendering them by referring to them as such when talking about the murder?

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If Bob Smith invented a new device and then became a doctor, would you say Dr. Bob Smith invented the device or just Bob Smith invented it? It is correct to use current terms to refer to what a person did. People don't care what a person used to be called. They just want to know who invented the device.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This makes it make sense. Thanks homie.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now kiss. All the homies give forehead kisses

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Forehead‽ Na give the homies legit smooches! (Iffy's skit on smarty-pants)

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

ooo, i'm gonna have to binge that. it feels QI-ish.

[–] waldfee@feddit.org 15 points 1 month ago

Yes, her name-change applies retroactively, so when you talk about something that she has done, you may say that she did that

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[–] sober_monk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Buckle up, buckaroo!

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This reminds me of the phrase I hate “this coming from the TOLERANT left?!”

I never said I tolerated bullshit! I just believe gay and trans people are human beings. Other than that I’m very easily irritated.

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Always remember the paradox of tolerance. To paraphrase:

Never tolerate intolerance.

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[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

She could be an office chair, I'll still make fun of her shitty ass.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I wonder how making fun of how she looks is considered. It's in bad taste to make fun of someone's appearance of course but I think there's probably some line where it crosses into transphobia.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Making fun of how someone looks invariably targets other people. Like why do it all?

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wasn't advocating for it. I just wonder where it crosses over to transphobia if the target is trans.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My point is it doesn't really matter, there is already sufficient reason to not do it at all. But I think it's safe to say joking about anything in her appearance is transphobic since her transness is inextricably tied to it, and more often than not transness is reduced to how someone presents themselves.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

I'm just wondering how it would work here. One perspective I was thinking about was what you mentioned, how there's no way to joke about her appearance without it being transphobic

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

Thought you were talking about Kristi Noem for a minute and making fun of maga face.

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