Unlike the more massive social media or the real world where theres not many leftists and we are gladly more united Lemmy and its left leaning tendencies with the instances providing natural cult grouping tendencies. Add to that the matrix in groups there and we all seem to be making a thing out of how to anger each other. How to troll each other or annoy x or y instance.

I hate this.

Living in an extreme right wing nation I know no other anarchist. A few left wingers. Even the libs here are right wing extremists by the standards of a western nation. I hold dear any solidarity.

I support unions here even when everyone there is a religious fundamentalist who wants sharia law bc they still qantnto improve the conditions of the working class.

Many folks here, who again I don't have any hate for, I see intending these fights and dramas. Having the goal to be banned from x or y community or instance.

Why!?!?
What do you gain?
What is the desire here??

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[–] Mangoguana@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

It would be best to focus on policies and ideas rather than ideological alignement. The moment someone says "thats socialist!" "That's right wing!" Is the moment where no meaningful action is taken, where discussion ends since you suddenly decide that your alignment is irreconcilable and makes no outcome possible.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 1 month ago

I just kinda wanna know what your basis for this is? It sound outrageous because it is. Maybe it's troll farms, or bot farms? But anyway, it could also be that you are seeing a problem because you want to, you know we can easily find anything if we look for it these days

[–] Coopr8@kbin.earth 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Political Compass Vector

Learn the Political Compass

Because politics is not limited to Left and Right, compressed down to it's minimum reasonable simplicity it is at least two dimensional. In mass media you see "Left" vs "Right" division, on Lemmy you see Lib Left vs Auth Right vs Center divisions, which are just as strong but largely suppressed by entrenched political interests especially in the US but also across the industrialized world where Lib Left has been suppressed by the capitalist political apparatus.

Note that most of the time when someone on the Fediverse decries "Liberals" they mean capitalist centrist in the "Neo-Liberal" mode. In some specific circumstances though you might see Auth Left criticizing Lib Left with the term, essentially insulting them by lumping them in with the Centrists. In other cases more in line with mass media you might see any Right position using the term against anyone center or left of center.

Essentially, Liberal has become a term only meaningful in context, and for that reason largely useless in common discourse. This is why the Political Compass is so useful a tool, situating political positions in their context, though of course it is flawed by being only two dimensional when actual political groups are very much multidimensional.

[–] Coopr8@kbin.earth 0 points 1 month ago

Hmmm... not sure why the image won't load https://imgur.com/a/Lgl07Uf

[–] LadyButterfly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I agree it can get extremist. I'm left in some areas, right in others so I just keep my opinions to myself. I've found generally when I say anything that isn't extreme left I get some nasty comments. It's a shame cos I love balanced and reasonable conversations with people.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago

Congratulations on noticing the human tendency to form tribes.

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