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Trump talked about perving on the girls in the Miss USA pageant years ago.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/03/26/trump-pageant-dressing-rooms/
Here are some pictures of Trump doing absolutely normal things with his teenage daughter.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ivanka-donald-trump-pic/
MAGA knew what Trump was in 2015 and loved him anyway.
Yeah, MAGA hasn't changed, and it was never admirable. In addition to what you said, Trump's Access Hollywood tape was his October Surprise in 2016. That's the one where he talks about grabbing women "by the pussy."
He's confessing a habit of sexual assault. And the tape doesn't sound like he's joking. We've seen since then testimony that he did that exact thing to E Jean Carrol, which basically confirms that he wasn't joking.
The same goes for the other points. There's no before and after here except for the mask gradually slipping 'til they just went fuck it and tore it off all the way.
Am I the only person who sees nothing wrong with his photo shoot with his daughter? Almost every dad on earth will have entirely innocent pictures with their children that taken out of context could be made to look like they're inappropriate.
I'm making no assertions about whether or not he's a paedophile (I happen to think he probably isn't, but certainly is complicit in the actions of a paedophile) but twisting every photo into "look! Pedo!" harms the actual argument.
sigh, I guess I am
I think what needs to be very clear is Trump's clear sexual objectification of women throughout his entire life. When he judges women, it's about how sexually appealing he finds them. If asked about a woman, he instinctively comments on their appearance whether or not it is at all relevant to the question. The only other thing that's as important to him is whether or not they say nice things about him and are loyal to him.
These comments really don't change that much when he talks about underage girls. He'd walk in on underage girls dressing during his beauty pageants. He doesn't even feel shame speaking the same way about his daughter, or having others speak the same way about her. I don't see how someone incapable of seeing underage girls through any lense other than how beautiful and desirable they are could be anything but a pedophile.
I assume you're not serious.
If it were one picture, you might have a point.
I did a search of "Donald Trump fondling Ivanka" and got a library.
Also, Ivanka once made a cute joke. She made Daddy promise not to date anyone younger than her.
Bonus. Trump and his teenage daughter standing next to an obscene statue, because that's what every daddy does, right?
yup
They have always been bad faith actors followed by brainwashed cultists.
Yeah... depicting them as the top ones is just wrong.
It's not changed, they've just taken the mask off a bit more now. Some of us could always see through it
MAGA hasn't changed. Whom they believe will be the targets of government intervention has changed.
"My hate speech is free speech" but "Your hate speech is intolerable"
"My tiktok propaganda is patriotic" but "Your tiktok propaganda is treason"
"My military actions promote world peace" but "Your pointless wars are unsustainable"
Imagine thinking MAGA was anything but fascist racist bigoted garbage.
In a large way it is. We know people don't know what the politicians are. They voted for reform. Part of that reform was no Wars, to end this globalization bullshit, to make the rich screwing us pay. Because the Democrats refused to pursue those the Republicans were able to lie about them pursuing them. This all just shows a real muscular reform candidate could win overwhelmingly and Usher in 100 Years of prosperity like FDR did.
Yep. People need hope for a better future, not to be showed charts and insist everything is fine when that is not their lived experience
The Democrats promised more of the same, Trump boldly lied and promised to fix everything with simple, nonsensical solutions
There's still the diehard fascists and death cultists, but that's a much smaller slice than it seems from the media
this is the weirdest fucking rewriting of history ever.
i know lemmy is full of libs, but fuck, if its filling up with chuds imma have to leave soon...
How is it a rewrite?
Ie; Even though their previous position of ‘free speech absolutist’ before was daft, at least you could trick yourself into thinking it was principled. The meme just highlights the hypocrisy in a format that’ll be palatable to them - more likely to get through to someone if you say they’ve lost their values vs never having them.
I know what a bunch of ml people mean by libs, but what’s chuds? I thought that was just MAGA-Qanut fuckwits.
a chud is anyone i dislike
only slightly /s
For those of you that dont seem to get it: This is a meme you are supposed to share with magats who will see it and get pissed off (insecure). its not supposed to be "truthful".
Okay, but this meme is such an attack on my psyche that there is no way I'm sharing it.
Should play on their cognitive dissonance, but that assumes they have enough conscious thought to hold two pieces of conflicting thoughts at the same time.
That actually makes sense. otoh, I'm sure they've already been spoon fed the cure by Fox News et al.
so they’ll go back to the good old days, when they were chanting "Jews will not replace us" and celebrating the death of Black people?
yeah no thanks!
I'm confused about your reply. They're still doing that, they never stopped doing that. The meme is not saying they are not doing that.
The meme is making fun of their hypocrisy. It's not saying "MAGAts now won't celebrate the death of a black person".
oh im well aware they’re still doing that. im saying they were doing that back then, too
getting these people to get back to how they were amounts to nothing because they were still monstrous back then
The top set of images needs to be removed, then copy the bottom images to the top. Then the meme is accurate.
They're both at the same time, like all historic fascists. Strong, but weak.
It's always been about "in-groups to protect and out-groups to bind", and "You do what I tell you. No one tells me what to do." They have never argued in good faith.
It's cuz they fawn over politicians. Their parasocial relationship with Trump is more important than any policy goals.
The picture is way too overdone, it should show a slightly flabier guy every frame. Seriously you should fix this shit cuz it would be good otherwise.
The policies are just a smokescreen. It’s always been a personality cult.
What's this meme template called?
That's exactly it.
They win you over. Then they pull the rug from under you.
Oh, and the "they" is identified as fascist. They may not identify themselves as such, but that's what they undoubtebly are.
The "you" is an all-inclusive you. It may not be you specifically, but it is "a large enough segment of the population for their shit to be tolerated by literally everyone in it. And some around it".