There's also a couple of already-controversial Lemmy users who are collaborating with the US government by judas-kissing everyone after having honeypotted them.
What?
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Judas-kissing is a midwest term. It means using covert means to mark someone as a person of interest for other people. It comes from the story of Judas kissing Jesus as a way to tell the Romans which person in the audience was Jesus.
"Honeypot" is government slang. It means an organization secretly made to keep track of a certain demographic. In this case, it refers to the government using the fediverse as a litmus test for whoever they think is worth putting under their radar.
Are you willing to name the Lemmy users doing this?
Your wording leaves me wondering whether you're suggesting that they're actively working with the feds, or just being helpful to them without that intent?
For better or worse, the government isn't dumb and they're aware not everyone in the fediverse is who they're looking for. The fediverse is very feudal, and the government has occasionally popped in to subtly ask the disillusioned for pointers, since simple spying often leads to questions. So there's active collaboration here.
Keep in mind this is a recent development in fairly old news. Trump was known in the beginning to vet immigrants for their social media presence. The freedom from lèse-majesté as it's called has been broken.
So no, you can't name them. Or really have anything but speculation
Not really what I said. Though I think this was answered better in the other exchange where someone asked.
It baffles me why Davel thought I was a recurring troll, and then had to unban me just to ban me again so that I appeared at the top of the modlogs. Does he genuinely think I'm any of those users, or is this a game of satisfaction to him as this would imply?
I've reported you to the US government. Removal pending
I'd doublecheck on your sources for "honeypot"
Check the modlog https://sh.itjust.works/modlog?userId=19760989
Edit: https://archive.ph/OCyVG
That's a mess I was caught up in. None of those people are me or are liked by me.
How are you aware of alleged Lemmy users collaborating with the US government? It almost sounds like you are implying you have insider knowledge of the focus of US federal agents.
It's not new news. It's just a new development in that news. Spying was already a topic with Luigi and Robin, but Charlie Kirk's assassination was an enormous deal apparently, with world leaders the world over paying respects. That kicked off a whole search engine based registry, which MSNBC reported on. Some of this involves a doxxing process, and even if this wasn't already made clear, you could put two and two together and get an idea that Lemmy would play a huge part in this and would be the thing all the paper trails lead to.
As for knowing exactly who is working with the NSA, people working for the agency would follow the same tactics. They entice a reaction, fake-debate with people, mine people for knowledge while knowing who probably is and isn't sympathetic to extremists (even though they would play it safe and treat everyone the same). They're not afraid to outright sit down with trustees though (recall the story of Orwell ratting out his comrades), and the crew behind the search engine registry isn't classified. Some people will brag and say they're working with the government as a flex, and occasionally it will be consistent with events surrounding suspects.
I see. So it’s speculation then.
When your adversary is the spooks... That's the best you are gonna get.
I couldn't have explained that aspect better. Thanks.
How incredulous.
Said a guy who gets on here defending pedos
Wait, what ?
Of course not. I don't even know the discussion he's talking about. If you look in my comment history, I have commented that pedophiles and child molesters are different populations and that using the words synonymously is ableism. That was super triggering to a lot of people.
A while back... There a discussion about pedo, I think OP was some vile confirmed shit, some people made off hand remarks about the wood chipper or whatever. Jerkface got into pissing context over it.
Sure Prolly shouldn't be killing off random people accused of being pedos but he don't even bother to acknowledge the victims.his concern is that the pedos don't get harmed lol
So even in your version of things, this person (who FYI wasn't me -- you're angry at me for correcting your ableist language, remember?) is just advocating against vigilante violence, and that's enough to make a mortal enemy. Look, we get it. You got diddled. Fucking stop throwing it in everyone's face and get help. Not even joking. This is clearly affecting your life and your ability to be happy. Get help.
Go on tell the class how you really feel about this issue dear ;)
Just a little more confirmation, we are almost there
@Blaze@lazysoci.al see above
I mean, you're the one brigading. That's more fitting of a question for the other person to ask.
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If by speculation you mean indirect confirmation.
This seems like a.... lot. Sometimes if someone spends too much time online, they start to see conspiracies where there aren't any.
I really do despise authoritarianism. If only there was some way to become rid of it.
As a non-amerikkkan who studied history back in the day, check French history. They explored some ways to become rid of bad people in power in general.
We could always switch to committee-based governance.
Hate speech for thee, but not for me. Nazi scum do love their lists.
TheObviousSolution, that's "The" "Obvious" "Solution", without spaces.
If you are going to be afraid of what you say because of what despots and their cult followings are going to do, they have already won. The fact is, they aren't going after pro-shooter content, they are using Charlie Kirk to go after their political opponents. One way to go after them is to go after people capable of critical thinking, i.e. that point out that Charlie Kirk promoted hate speech, suffered an ironic death by the typical MAGA household profile shooter, and that people are free to now celebrate the absence of his hate. Don't be an asshole, force me into your funeral, then expect me to respect it.
unless the nazi states of america start acting outside of their country, I don't think I'm too concerned about it. I'm not planning on ever visiting again, at least in the foreseeable future.
be safe down there, though, folks
i'm pretty close to that. I've not said anything directly pro-murder, but plenty anti-kirk and anti-trump.
I'm not pro shooter, but, as a Canadian, my facebook page is full of political concerns about Trump, and the USA's decline into facism. I wouldnt expect to be allowed in into the anti-free speech zones Trump is creating.
I'm confused. Is it just users furnishing the gov with usernames? Or is it mods, who could potentially have access to a user's email used to sign up with their instance? Do mods have access to that, or just admins?
You can spin up your own instance and see a whole bunch of shit like IP addresses, vote history, etc.
I think it would be naive to think that the various 3 letter agencies wouldn't have their own instance to surveill us.
A mix of all the above. Recall that time in American history that Orwell ratted on his comrades.
Those fuckers (sadly in charge) are scared shitless.
They have a weird way of showing it.
Glad I don't live in the US because the administration is fine with promoting hatred against women, transgender people and people who aren't white but this is where they draw the line. Safe to say they're scared shitless. Good lmao
I'm forever grateful for the fact that I'm not 'Murican
Do you ever plan to go to Murica or have family in Murica?
I have someone special to me in 'Murica
We're working on her visa to get her the fuck out of there
I go over all the time to see her
Be careful out there.
I delete all social media apps from my phone before I get to immigration
I'm there enough that they can see my travel history and I pretty much get waved through now
I make sure that I don't make myself a target though
China currently bans anyone from entering who denies their narrative about Tiananmen Square.
I don't think they do. I think they would if you decided to start telling people in China about it. But if you shut up while you're in China and haven't shown any signs of trying to influence the Chinese people, they don't really care.
You'd be surprised. Any time some famous YouTube host says anything about Tiananmen Square, there's almost always an obligatory drama queen remark about being banned from China the moment it gets uploaded (I say "drama queen remark" because I would be surprised if anyone would actually want to go to China aside from seeing the great wall and marking it off a bucket list of every nation that ever existed).
That's a celebrity. Nobody cares if you're an average person and not too loud. Although the list of celebrities on the Wikipedia list of banned people from China seems to be people who did/said stuff while in China, often to an audience.
Maybe I'm old fashioned but I don't think "pro-shooter content" should be a thing to begin with.