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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (17 children)

I think a lot of people have not read the article. Locker rooms/changing rooms are already uncomfortable. If there was a girl in my locker room in school, I would have been uncomfortable too. From the article, I wouldn't go so far as to call it bullying, and suspending the students, but it's clear that this is a time to have a talk with them, and if he is willing, the trans student as well.

In fairness to the school district, they said they would not have suspended the students for something like this, and they are investigating. So chances are there is more that happened than what is in the news cycle.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Then it's fortunate that your personal experience doesn't dictate school safety procedures :)

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I agree, but let's analyze this a bit further... Who's personal experience should dictate school safety procedures?

Edit : They did not want to discuss. They instead wanted to use a small grammatical mistake to avoid any discussion at all.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I'd argue no personal experience should be the basis for any safety procedure.

Safety procedures should be based on... what keeps people safe. Personal experience shouldn't enter into it.

Say you need to evacuate a building. The evacuation plan should be based on building population, the number of exits, etc. etc. There are established policies for coming up with an evacuation plan to ensure they are safe and consistent.

https://www.osha.gov/etools/evacuation-plans-procedures/eap/elements

Not "personal experience".

[–] tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm going to circle back around, there was an investigation launched. They don't launch those investigations without evidence. And the boys were suspended, which means that the school board, with their experience dealing with bullies found that this was a situation where a trans boy was being bullied by his peers. The school used it's experience to determine the answer question you posed. And suspended the bullies.

In your comment that I initially replied to, you pushed the idea that these kids truly believe that this is a girl. I think it's far more likely that they know he's trans, and view him as a freak. Calling him a girl wasn't there perception. It was the language they chose to bully someone they see as different.

And incidents like this are why suicide rates are high in the trans population.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Not relevant to this thread. Since you're here though...

...let’s analyze this a bit further… Who’s personal experience should dictate school safety procedures?

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Think about you HS days. Did you ever here a boy say "I am feeling uncomfortable" and not being sarcastic. and acting suprised... it was march. They knew who the person was. They were calling it out to be mean and make the person uncomfortable or even afraid. They were trying to build momentum and to get others to join in the harassment.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Did you ever here a boy say “I am feeling uncomfortable” and not being sarcastic. and acting suprised

I'm actually going to believe that one is 'genuine.' It's amazing how quickly people begin acting in over-exaggerated 'civility' when a phone or camera is in obvious sight.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Agree to disagree. Kids these days are used to phones being everywhere, and at the time he said it, the vid is black. They were probably not holding it in an obvious recording hold, so they could get the real treatment on tape. We would need a HS teacher to break the tie though.

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