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Trades Hall probably can't say 'Punch them' legally or without cops getting agro.

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[–] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I read the other day that a good response to these fuck heads is ridicule. They're not only prepared for a fight, it's what they want. What they can't stand however is being ridiculed and laughed at. The most demoralising thing you can do is to laugh in their face because of how fucking ridiculous they are.

Sure, tell them to Fuck right Off.. but do it with a chuckle and a grin. They won't know how to handle it.

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 8 points 7 months ago

I think this is kinda what trades hall was going for. My comment in the post text about them not being able to say 'punch them' was aimed at folks who might think that by not saying that then it is some kind of capitulation. I remember reading that someone did confront the goons at the recent Melbourne rally and apparently they got toweled because the nazis are prepared to fight you when you're out numbered.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago

Some of the antifascists in Australia have had success with YARDing (Yelling At Racist Dogs): "How to deal with alt-right pests at rallies".

Demonstrating to these idiots that they're outsiders to the communities they're targeting is, you picked the right word, demoralising. One of the main neo-Nazi organisers here (Joel Davis) made a speech to the UK Patriotic Alternative, quote "You guys might get demoralised sometimes when you do a demonstration and there's fifty of you and there's two hundred antifa- I'm not saying that's happened, but I don't- I don't know all the details, but I've been in experiences like that where I've gone to protests [...] and there's ten of us and, like, two hundred communists. And it feels like shit. i-it's horrible. It's horrifying."

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[–] tombruzzo@aussie.zone 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The police wouldn't like messaging that says to punch Nazis because it would be advocating for violence against the police

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago

NGL I recon some of the posts around here are getting people put on lists.

[–] lmdnw@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone -5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

only in mortal defence of yourself or others

otherwise it's murder

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Never murder to kill a nazi. Our grandfather's would demand it. Probably why these fucks feel safe coming out in public. Because our grandfather's that fought in WWII are not here to put a stop to this shit.

[–] lmdnw@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Tolerance of intolerance is the path to fascism. I prefer the term justifiable homicide.

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't give a fuck what people believe. They are free to believe what ever idiocy they choose. I am also free to not have anything to do with hateful stupid people. I choose my friends.

The minute they act as oppressors I will use the law and use it hard. Anything else is just hot air.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 4 points 7 months ago

They are free to believe what ever idiocy they choose.

You say this as if their beliefs are inconsequential, merely ideas in an abstract. This group is a predatory cult. It was recently publicly revealed that one of their members already killed themselves due to internal oppression. They regularly threaten people (including politicians) with violence and commit violence, and members have been charged and arrested for doing so. They're still doing it and growing in size. The law has shown itself ineffective at stopping them.

But ultimately, at the end of the day, this cult is organising with the explicit intent of exterminating people, including me. So, when do you believe I, or we, should stop them?

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 months ago
[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You know, I heard that once upon a time, killing Nazis was America's favorite past time.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Relinking this recent exposé about the main neo-Nazi group involved in this rally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo2xBrImsg4

and the White Rose Society guide to media reporting on these scum: https://thewhiterosesociety.writeas.com/9-principles-for-journalists-reporting-on-neo-nazis

[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

The most punk rock thing to do.

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not really a meme but I'll leave it up. Probably would fit better in the main Australia community.

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. I understand. If I have something similar to share I'll post it to Australia or another suitable community. How did canvas go this year? I didn't have time to check in on it.

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago

The canvas got nowhere this year, I was on holiday and some of the other big contributers didn't do it, so nobody did enough to get the ball rolling. We did get a bluey in tho, and we had some stars and an aboriginal flag but those got removed. Hopefully we can make a comeback next time.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 7 months ago

This is an important public service announcement if ever I saw one.

[–] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago

As someone who is for setting sensible limits on immigration for environmental and economic reasons I also wish they would fuck off.

All their racist nonsense ends up doing is drowning out any chance of sensible discussion about what sustainable levels of population growth from immigration look like.

These protestors are literally doing the bidding of the 1% / business lobby / rent seekers for free. Of course anyone that racist is too stupid to even realise that's what they are doing.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev -1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I need more solid proof on who's Nazis and who's not

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 4 points 7 months ago

Is this a reference?

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

look at their actions

if they break a law get the police or sue

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So every police officer? Every single one?

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 points 7 months ago

Their Union says so.

[–] Killer57@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

there has never been a cross burning here in Australia, not one

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

‘We do not need to wait for a Christchurch’: Grampians cross burning spurs call for action

National Socialist Network members set fire to a cross during a visit to the Grampians National Park at the weekend.

It took me one minute to google and read this to check your statement. You sound so confident in everything you say yet you were wrong and could have done your own homework in one minute.